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China Creates Pirate Copy of Russia’s Su-33 Fighter Jet
Market Oracle ^ | 6/5/2010 | Market Oracle

Posted on 06/05/2010 8:18:55 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

China’s Shenyang Aircraft Corporation created a copy of a Russian deck-based Su-33 fighter jet. The Chinese model of the aircraft was called J-15, Interfax reports with reference to the May issue of the Kanwa Asian Defence military publication.

The Chinese fighter jet is based on the Soviet T10K training aircraft, which China received from Ukraine. Chinese engineers found it very difficult to solve the problem of folding wings of deck-based fighter jets. Now the problem has been solved.

It is not clear yet, if the new plane has performed its first flight yet: the Chinese Air Force does not have its own test center for the sea aviation.

Vietnam buys 12 Sukhoi fighters

China earlier attempted to purchase two Su-33 planes from Russia to study the aircraft performance. Moscow rejected the deal over the fear of technology leak, as it previously happened with the J-11 aircraft, RBC reports.

When trying to enter the Chinese arms market, Russia handed over the assembly technology for the Su-27CK fighter jet to China. As a result, China modernized the plane and began to work on a serial production of the J-11 plane. Such a step can give China an opportunity to put competitive pressure on Russia on the arms market of third countries, experts said.

Russia started delivering Su-27CK planes to China in 1992. The sides signed an agreement for 76 fighters of the class. In 1995, Russia sold the license for the production of 200 more fighters. China’s Shenyang Aircraft Corporation started assembling them as J-11 with the use of Russian components.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; chineseairforce; copy; flanker; j15; license; news; piratecopy; plaaf; russia; su33; sukhoi
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1 posted on 06/05/2010 8:18:55 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: mowowie; Captain Beyond; Boiler Plate; hennie pennie; F15Eagle; James C. Bennett

Ping


2 posted on 06/05/2010 8:21:00 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove

China is cunterfeit city.

I wonder how many US companies have been robbed like this?


3 posted on 06/05/2010 8:21:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: GeronL

Many.


4 posted on 06/05/2010 8:22:18 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Funny that Russia objected to China’s trying to buy their jets because the Russians think the Chinese will steal their desighns.

Both the Russians and Chinese steal everything. All comomunists do. They have no rules, no law. All communism and socialism is theft. Why shouldn’t they steal everything else?


5 posted on 06/05/2010 8:22:23 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

China Sea skeet...


6 posted on 06/05/2010 8:22:50 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: sonofstrangelove
Chinese engineers found it very difficult to solve the problem of folding wings of deck-based fighter jets.

Is this the variant the Russians wouldn't give them a demonstrator model of. They've copied just about everything else.

7 posted on 06/05/2010 8:23:03 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: GeronL

Excuse me?


8 posted on 06/05/2010 8:24:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

lol.

China likes to copy foreign technology, so naturally the US puts its factories there.


9 posted on 06/05/2010 8:26:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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I once owned a Chinese copy of a UZI. It was the worst firearm I have ever owned.


10 posted on 06/05/2010 8:27:45 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove
and VN need folding wing deck planes because???
11 posted on 06/05/2010 8:29:27 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: garyhope

Karma's a bitch huh?

12 posted on 06/05/2010 8:32:52 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: GeronL

As long as China has to “copy” technology we don’t have as much to worry about. Once they start “developing” their own technology, then we have something to worry about. Copied technology tells us they are one generation behind ours. Once they innovate on their own, they are on a par.


13 posted on 06/05/2010 8:34:07 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: sonofstrangelove

And they created a copy of a German motorcycle with a side car but who would want to own one.


14 posted on 06/05/2010 8:47:28 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Cacique

Copying is a way of doing just that. Remember how the Toyota caught up, and lead?


15 posted on 06/05/2010 8:49:54 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: sonofstrangelove

I have a Chinese copy of an Ithaca 37 and it is actually quite good. Possibly not the very best barrel steel is the only deficiency people have noted. Mine seems fine.


16 posted on 06/05/2010 8:51:54 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: garyhope

Communists don’t have any conception of property rights of any kind. That is why they steal. When the only officially recognized property owner is the state, it is logical to steal from other countries in all ways, personal, industrial, intellectual and national.


17 posted on 06/05/2010 8:54:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (We arYoue traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: James C. Bennett

Toyota still has yet to invent anything. What Toyota has done to compensate for their lack of innovation is to concentrate on quality. However, I was speaking more in the context of nations. The reality is that practically every major innovation in technology in the last 50 years has been developed in one country and one country only. Europe has not done anything major since the end of WW II. WW II put the nail on the European Coffin. Japan has not develoiped anything either. They wer good a copying and better quality. But look at where they are now. Same thing China. However, t5hat is not to say that policies being pursued by the current administartion may desatroyt that particular lead that we hold.

Do not confuse the capacity of a nation to manufacture products or to copy other’s innovations and refine them. The ability to invent and innovate is not something that is easily trasferable.


18 posted on 06/05/2010 9:55:02 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Boiler Plate

There is a real interesting story of the Tu-4 Bull and the B-29. In 1943, the then secret B-29 was leaked by Captain Eddie Rickenbacker during a government mission to Russia in 1943. The Russians wanted the plane as part of Lend-Lease but was denied by the United States. However, three B-29s were impounded by the Russians when they landed there. The three B-29s were named Ramp Tramp (42-6256), Ding Hao (42-6358), and The General H.H. Arnold Special (42-6365).Ramp Tramp was disassembled for examination and was the template.


19 posted on 06/05/2010 10:35:36 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Boiler Plate

I do agree on a Tupolev Bull as a B-29 knock-off but Conrord and ‘Concordsky’ are actually two different planes. Tu-144 first flew before Concord did.


20 posted on 06/05/2010 11:45:54 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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