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To: Myrddin; rmlew; Cacique
If only the Turkish military still had the stones to stand up to Erdogan and his show trials of their officers.

Turkey is the ONLY country I can think of where I support the Left over the Right. The Left in Turkey stands for the secularism of Ataturk, the Right in Turkey stands for clericalism and Islamism.

11 posted on 06/01/2010 5:10:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
Having spine in Turkey can be a pain in the neck...as in beheading. I've noticed that Turks are very reticent to speak or act as "failure" is punished brutally. One of my co-workers observed a sentry who wasn't fully paying attention to his job. His superior escorted him behind the guard shack and beat him to a bloody pulp with his rifle butt.

On another occasion, my dad received a call from the commanding officer of a Turkish vessel tied up at 32nd St Naval Station, San Diego. He asked for permission to conduct an execution on the fantail of the vessel. My dad denied the request. The commanding officer notified my dad that they would be casting off lines at 7 AM. The did so. The ship travelled beyond the 12 mile mark from the coast and executed the sailor. His crime? He returned drunk to the ship and took a swing at the officer of the deck.

A third experience passed along to me by my dad. A Turkish soldier was ordered to get a haircut. He refused. The barber was instructed to give him a "permanent wave". He did. The picture sequence showed the soldier with hands bound behind him, on his knees. The barber beheaded him.

The week I visited Izmir, there were 5 members of the cabinet who said something "offensive" to the rest of the body. That was in the Sunday paper. By Tuesday, the cabinet has passed an ex post facto law making their offense a capital offense. On Thursday, all 5 were executed. I was very pleased when my flight lifted off from Izmir. The place can be exceptionally brutal.

Given that background, what is the probability of the Turkey military "having the stones" to stand up to the President? It would be a fruitless effort ending in a room temperature finish.

14 posted on 06/01/2010 5:39:03 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Clemenza

Left and right are confused in Turkey. The Islamists run a welfare party. The Kemalists are nationalist. Which is right and which is left, both are.


16 posted on 06/02/2010 12:10:52 AM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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