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"Organ Donation Euthanasia": A Dangerous Proposal
Culture of Life Foundation ^ | 5/27/10 | E. Christian Brugger, D.Phil.

Posted on 05/30/2010 1:23:34 PM PDT by wagglebee

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The fact that a reputable journal such as Bioethics would feature an article promoting ODE illustrates how deeply our moral sensibilities against killing have already eroded. They eroded as a result of past proposals to make ‘exceptions’ to the norm against killing in the delivery of health care.

We're much farther down the slippery slope than most people realize.

1 posted on 05/30/2010 1:23:34 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/30/2010 1:24:31 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 05/30/2010 1:25:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 05/30/2010 1:25:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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People so attached to life they would participate in this are people the world could really do without.


5 posted on 05/30/2010 1:31:06 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (FREE ARIZONA!)
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Either you are free and your organs belong to you or you are a slave and your organs belong to the state or someone else. There is no other choice.


6 posted on 05/30/2010 1:33:28 PM PDT by JMS
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The organ donation system needs to be altered so that those who have already signed Donor Cards will have priority if and when they need a donated organ and in order to save the government, hospitals and insurance companies money of costly transplants, donated organs should only go to those people who can pay the full cost of an organ transplant.


7 posted on 05/30/2010 1:33:44 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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This will make me change my donor status on my DL, what a crazy world it is today.


8 posted on 05/30/2010 1:54:31 PM PDT by MontanaBeth (Miles to go...)
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How do they figure this will make more people want to donate organs? I think they could increase organ donations by allowing donors to keep their organs until they’re done using them. Are there really people out there who would be more likely to donate their organs if they knew the organs are removed while they’re still using them? What if we could donate our organs while we’re awake? Would that be another incentive?


9 posted on 05/30/2010 2:09:32 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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NJ is an "opt-out" state. You are presumed to give permission for the use of your organs, not only for lifesaving treatment, but also for training and study. My Favorite Liberal was giving me a hard time aboutnot being an organ donor until I read her that part of the NJ law.
10 posted on 05/30/2010 2:27:02 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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The Chinese harvest organs from prisoners, etc., according to Chinese thought about the “value” of the lives of the donors—of course, they have no Judeo-Christian notions of bioethics to create a problem with doing so.


11 posted on 05/30/2010 2:36:50 PM PDT by browniexyz
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Yes. Who realized that signing an organ donor card, which seems so innocent and giving, would hasten your own demise?

It is very vile.


12 posted on 05/30/2010 2:43:52 PM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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Who realized that signing an organ donor card, which seems so innocent and giving, would hasten your own demise?

Me, that's who. I refuse to sign any donor card or authorize any organ harvesting whatsoever. I demand to be treated as a live patient as opposed to an incubator for somebody else's liver. This has been pretty easy to see coming for years. By the time I get into retirement, I imagine I will not be allowed to "resist."

13 posted on 05/30/2010 2:49:55 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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Yes. Who realized that signing an organ donor card, which seems so innocent and giving, would hasten your own demise?

Every competant military historian who has studied communist countries, and the rise of socialism in the first decades of the 20th century.

14 posted on 05/30/2010 3:11:44 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Monstrous.


15 posted on 05/30/2010 3:32:45 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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Probably not as many of us musicians, tho.


16 posted on 05/30/2010 3:37:32 PM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I learned about organ donor vileness a while back, but it always gave me the creeps that they had that form on the drivers’ license. Uck. But then the hastening death part/ it is so vile.

I did not put two and two together. Can learn so much on Free Republic.


17 posted on 05/30/2010 3:39:20 PM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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I have always refused to be an organ donor and this just cements my position.

People who live with donated organs have no easy path, either. They have to take (AFAIK) immune suppressant drugs for the rest of their lives, and sometime there are other problems. It’s not a cure-all or something that works for everyone.

Everyone faces an end to the earthly body, and that is not actually a tragedy. The tragedy is to leave this world not knowing God, and to have committed crimes without repentence; clinging onto that with cannot save us. To hasten anyone’s departure is a crime; but to prolong one’s earthly tenure at the expense of someone else is another crime indeed.


18 posted on 05/30/2010 4:06:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Almost anybody who had thought about it. I have been turning down opportunities to sign up for organ donation ever since they started and I leaqrned they used “brain death” as the criterion.


19 posted on 05/30/2010 4:41:36 PM PDT by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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>> Everyone faces an end to the earthly body, and that is not actually a tragedy. The tragedy is to leave this world not knowing God, and to have committed crimes without repentence;

Absolutely true!

>> ...clinging onto that with cannot save us. To hasten anyone’s departure is a crime; but to prolong one’s earthly tenure at the expense of someone else is another crime indeed.

That’s also true; however, the decision not to prolong one’s brief stay here on earth should be a decision made in a spirit of love by the inhabitant of the body, or at worst by a close family member.

It should NOT be the decision of the State.


20 posted on 05/30/2010 5:00:36 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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