Posted on 05/30/2010 11:48:20 AM PDT by narses
Dr. Richard Grossman M.D. is the only abortionist in over 200 miles, and he's not shy about publicly touting his grisly profession.
Every Wednesday of every week, Dr. Grossman kills children at the Durango Planned Parenthood. He charges a sliding scale based on the age of the child. For killing a child of 5-11 weeks he charges $425, 12-13 weeks $515, 14-15 weeks $780, and 16-17 weeks costs $880.
Pictures of what each of these children look like after they are aborted at these different stages of development can be seen here.
I first learned of Dr. Grossman, on Wednesday, Novemeber 18, 2009. I was participating in a vigil outside the abortuary that was organized by Life Guard of La Plata, a Catholic non-profit organization that helps mothers in crisis pregnancies. During this vigil, pro-lifers told me about Dr. Grossman.
I already knew what abortionists do, and I was saddened to see approximately six young ladies escorted in to participate in the killing of their children. What I wasn't ready for was to learn what Dr. Grossman did on the other days when he wasn't killing children.
Dr. Grossman worked, and still works at a Catholic hospital, Mercy Regional Medical Center, as a staff physician with full medical privileges!
Here is a man that kills children once a week, and he is employed by a hospital that is supposed to share my belief that what he does is murder? What in the world was going on? I immediately fired off an email to my Bishops.
Despite repeated entreaties to my Bishops, I have not learned of any action being taken to end this scandalous situation. I have since learned that local pro-life activists (Catholic and Protestant) have been trying to get the Catholic church to step in and stop Dr. Grossman for at least three years!
It should be noted, that while I realize that it is scandalous to point out this ongoing situation within the Catholic church, it is a much more egregious scandal to let it continue unaddressed.
Dr. Grossman would not be able to financially maintain himself on what he earns killing children one day a week. Does this not make Mercy Hospital in Durango and the Catholic Church a material facilitator to the killing? In effect, the Catholic Church, Mercy Hospital, and the Catholic Health Initiatives (based in Denver) are subsidizing abortion services in the Four Corners area.
If that were not bad enough, and it is, Dr. Grossman openly promotes eugenics in his regular column for the local Durango newspaper, the Durango Herald in a column entitled Population Matters.
It seems that the Catholic church is not capable of putting a stop to Dr. Grossman's evil audacity. The reason, according to local activists, is that the hospital and the church fear federal employement discrimination lawsuits. There is, however, a valid basis to believe that this Catholic hospital would be within its right to fire a murderer such as Dr. Grossman, although it is more likely that the church would lose a lawsuit from Dr. Grossman.
When it comes down to it what makes a church like the Catholic church great is its claim to be the repository of the Truth, not the health of its bank accounts.
In an age when the Catholic church is sued on an almost daily basis, wouldn't it be refreshing if the church were sued for preventing child killing at its hospitals instead of for allowing children to be molested.
I for one would welcome the fight. In the meantime I will be helping activists in the Durango area protest, not only at the abortuary, but at the Catholic hospital that makes it possible for Dr. Grossman to kill children and still make a good living.
You wrote:
“If the article is mistaken, what is the Catholic churchs relationship to the hospital and those who practice there?”
1) The Catholic Church doesn’t own the hospital. The church doesn’t pay the salary of anyone in the hospital either - except perhaps of the chaplain.
2) The Catholic Church doesn’t have the legal authority to hire or fire anyone in the hospital other than the Catholic chaplain.
3) The Catholic Church has spiritual authority over all the Catholics in the hospital. That means the bishop of the diocese can excommunicate Catholics there if they violate canon law. That is his decision, however, and realistically there is essentially no way to go over his head in the situation. Thus, as an institution, in real terms, the hospital is not under the control of the bishop and the Church.
And this proves my point in spades: http://www.sentinel.org/node/10753
Acts 5:29
Interesting, thanks for the response..
Just so I understand your response correctly, are you saying that this author is stating that he may be sinning by telling the public about the activities he is describing (i.e. the public does not need to know)?
Who would be the decision-maker concerning the public's "need to know"?
Yes.
Why do we need liberals touting their abortion rhetoric when we have supposed "conservative FReepers" like yourself telling us...
(a) ...dismembering pre-borns is a "performance"?? (do these abortionist get an "entertainment bonus fee" for doing it in the eyes of God and sanction-free by the local/regional Catholic leaders?)
(b) ...we label men who dismember pre-born babies, and fail to treat such a baby as a second patient, something all real docs/OB-GYNs do...as "doctors"???
So should the Catholic Churcxh review all the private livesdoctors...
So now what people do as a public profession -- dismembering babies -- is reduced by you to be some "private" life activity? Really? Are you a grad of Abortion U.? Did you attend the Planned Parenthood School of 'Pro-Choice' Rhetoric?
Any information you can provide concerning the second question?
Good point.
(Oh, "thank God" he gets the murderin' out of his system each week before he steps into a Catholic sanctioned institution to "heal" others...BTW, how would pregnant FReepers feel goin' to see an abortionist like this in a Catholic hospital, knowing full well that abortionist GROSSman doesn't treat pre-borns as "second patients" in other environments? Certainly doesn't exude confidence in the institution)
Do not confuse my statement of fact with a defense of the hospital’s actions.
Your conscience.
The nun murdered an innocent baby. The abortionist killed many. Nothing wrong with either of them that cannot be cured by burning them at the stake. As to Grossman, it is not easy to excommunicate those who were never in the Church.
ping
I understand that. And in part, that's all you were doing...was issuing a "statement of fact".
Still, when we're seemingly more concerned with...
... pinpointing the venue of a butcher's killing field, thereby properly "compartmentalizing" it,
...vs. stressing that a murderer's still a murderer even when his victim tally isn't "upped" at a given religiously sanctioned location...
...then I'd think you could agree with me that even our simple "statements of fact" begin to sound a bit off-kilter. (Yes?)
The saducees didn’t want the apostles preaching the truth and falsely imprisoned them in acts 5
What does that have to do with God placing civil authorities over them and following laws have to do with acts 5
I don’t believe in abortion in every case. But when someone saves the life of a mother I wouldn’t call it abortion. There are medical reasons.
should have pinged you sorry
Medical reasons like what? An ectopic pregnancy? Yes. But in that case, the baby is going to die, anyway, and will kill the mom in the process. So that is a rare but genuine case of "self-defense."
Tell me, what other "medical reasons" does a doc know where yes, 100% (like an ectopic situation), he can diagnostically or "prophetically" say, "This baby will kill Mom if we don't get him or her out of there?" (before a late-term early induced pregnancy situation, that is)
I’m not a MD
“Im not a MD”
Really? Good. As a laymen then, answer the question.
The original comment indicated that abortions were being performed in the Catholic hospital, all I did was point out that this was false, I made no attempt to defend the hospital.
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