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Dr. Grossman: a Catholic Funded Abortionist in Colorado's Four Corners
Denver Independent Examiner ^ | May 26, 5:38 PM | Gualberto Garcia Jones

Posted on 05/30/2010 11:48:20 AM PDT by narses

Dr. Richard grossmanDr. Richard Grossman M.D. is the only abortionist in over 200 miles, and he's not shy about publicly touting his grisly profession. 

Every Wednesday of every week, Dr. Grossman kills children at the Durango Planned Parenthood.  He charges a sliding scale based on the age of the child.  For killing a child of 5-11 weeks he charges $425, 12-13 weeks $515, 14-15 weeks $780, and 16-17 weeks costs $880.

Pictures of what each of these children look like after they are aborted at these different stages of development can be seen here.

I first learned of Dr. Grossman, on Wednesday, Novemeber 18, 2009.  I was participating in a vigil outside the abortuary that was organized by Life Guard of La Plata, a Catholic non-profit organization that helps mothers in crisis pregnancies.  During this vigil, pro-lifers told me about Dr. Grossman.

I already knew what abortionists do, and I was saddened to see approximately six young ladies escorted in to participate in the killing of their children.   What I wasn't ready for was to learn what Dr. Grossman did on the other days when he wasn't killing children. 

Dr. Grossman worked, and still works at a Catholic hospital, Mercy Regional Medical Center, as a staff physician with full medical privileges!

Here is a man that kills children once a week, and he is employed by a hospital that is supposed to share my belief that what he does is murder?  What in the world was going on?  I immediately fired off an email to my Bishops

Despite repeated entreaties to my Bishops, I have not learned of any action being taken to end this scandalous situation.  I have since learned that local pro-life activists (Catholic and Protestant) have been trying to get the Catholic church to step in and stop Dr. Grossman for at least three years!

It should be noted, that while I realize that it is scandalous to point out this ongoing situation within the Catholic church, it is a much more egregious scandal to let it continue unaddressed.

Dr. Grossman would not be able to financially maintain himself on what he earns killing children one day a week.  Does this not make Mercy Hospital in Durango and the Catholic Church a material facilitator to the killing?  In effect, the Catholic Church, Mercy Hospital, and the Catholic Health Initiatives (based in Denver) are subsidizing abortion services in the Four Corners area.

If that were not bad enough, and it is, Dr. Grossman openly promotes eugenics in his regular column for the local Durango newspaper, the Durango Herald in a column entitled Population Matters.

It seems that the Catholic church is not capable of putting a stop to Dr. Grossman's evil audacity.  The reason, according to local activists, is that the hospital and the church fear federal employement discrimination lawsuits.  There is, however, a valid basis to believe that this Catholic hospital would be within its right to fire a murderer such as Dr. Grossman, although it is more likely that the church would lose a lawsuit from Dr. Grossman.

When it comes down to it what makes a church like the Catholic church great is its claim to be the repository of the Truth, not the health of its bank accounts.

In an age when the Catholic church is sued on an almost daily basis, wouldn't it be refreshing if the church were sued for preventing child killing at its hospitals instead of for allowing children to be molested. 

I for one would welcome the fight.  In the meantime I will be helping activists in the Durango area protest, not only at the abortuary, but at the Catholic hospital that makes it possible for Dr. Grossman to kill children and still make a good living.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; moralabsolutes; prolife
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To: count-your-change

You wrote:

“If the article is mistaken, what is the Catholic church’s relationship to the hospital and those who practice there?”

1) The Catholic Church doesn’t own the hospital. The church doesn’t pay the salary of anyone in the hospital either - except perhaps of the chaplain.
2) The Catholic Church doesn’t have the legal authority to hire or fire anyone in the hospital other than the Catholic chaplain.
3) The Catholic Church has spiritual authority over all the Catholics in the hospital. That means the bishop of the diocese can excommunicate Catholics there if they violate canon law. That is his decision, however, and realistically there is essentially no way to go over his head in the situation. Thus, as an institution, in real terms, the hospital is not under the control of the bishop and the Church.

And this proves my point in spades: http://www.sentinel.org/node/10753


81 posted on 05/30/2010 3:28:46 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: sabe@q.com; narses

Acts 5:29


82 posted on 05/30/2010 3:29:03 PM PDT by Faith
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To: narses
Yes, scandal can be reporting the truth to those who do not need to know it. If this truth causes a loss in faith in a person for who no need of that particular detail existed, the telling of same is wrong. So, for example, if I know that a neighbor is having an affair, telling random people that truth could be a sin.

Interesting, thanks for the response..

Just so I understand your response correctly, are you saying that this author is stating that he may be sinning by telling the public about the activities he is describing (i.e. the public does not need to know)?

Who would be the decision-maker concerning the public's "need to know"?

83 posted on 05/30/2010 3:38:24 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: Col Freeper

Yes.


84 posted on 05/30/2010 3:42:49 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: worst-case scenario; sabe@q.com
So should the Catholic Churcxh review all the private lives of the doctors they give priveleges to? What should they include as a reason to forbid priveleges, aside from performing abortions?...At what point does the activity that a doctor performs when he is not at work determine whether he should get priveleges? [worst-case scenario]

Why do we need liberals touting their abortion rhetoric when we have supposed "conservative FReepers" like yourself telling us...
(a) ...dismembering pre-borns is a "performance"?? (do these abortionist get an "entertainment bonus fee" for doing it in the eyes of God and sanction-free by the local/regional Catholic leaders?)
(b) ...we label men who dismember pre-born babies, and fail to treat such a baby as a second patient, something all real docs/OB-GYNs do...as "doctors"???

So should the Catholic Churcxh review all the private livesdoctors...

So now what people do as a public profession -- dismembering babies -- is reduced by you to be some "private" life activity? Really? Are you a grad of Abortion U.? Did you attend the Planned Parenthood School of 'Pro-Choice' Rhetoric?

85 posted on 05/30/2010 3:47:28 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: narses
Thanks for the answer to the first question.

Any information you can provide concerning the second question?

86 posted on 05/30/2010 3:48:05 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: wagglebee
Agreed, what I meant was that a physician's association with a hospital in no way indicates his religious affiliation. This monster could easily be a Baptist, Calvinist, Jew or atheist.

Good point.

87 posted on 05/30/2010 3:51:25 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: wagglebee
He DOES NOT murder babies in a Catholic hospital.

(Oh, "thank God" he gets the murderin' out of his system each week before he steps into a Catholic sanctioned institution to "heal" others...BTW, how would pregnant FReepers feel goin' to see an abortionist like this in a Catholic hospital, knowing full well that abortionist GROSSman doesn't treat pre-borns as "second patients" in other environments? Certainly doesn't exude confidence in the institution)

88 posted on 05/30/2010 3:55:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Do not confuse my statement of fact with a defense of the hospital’s actions.


89 posted on 05/30/2010 4:02:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Col Freeper

Your conscience.


90 posted on 05/30/2010 4:05:24 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: sabe@q.com

The nun murdered an innocent baby. The abortionist killed many. Nothing wrong with either of them that cannot be cured by burning them at the stake. As to Grossman, it is not easy to excommunicate those who were never in the Church.


91 posted on 05/30/2010 4:16:02 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: theKid51

ping


92 posted on 05/30/2010 4:19:07 PM PDT by bmwcyle (NJ Governor Chris Christie for President)
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To: wagglebee
Do not confuse my statement of fact with a defense of the hospital’s actions.

I understand that. And in part, that's all you were doing...was issuing a "statement of fact".

Still, when we're seemingly more concerned with...
... pinpointing the venue of a butcher's killing field, thereby properly "compartmentalizing" it,
...vs. stressing that a murderer's still a murderer even when his victim tally isn't "upped" at a given religiously sanctioned location...
...then I'd think you could agree with me that even our simple "statements of fact" begin to sound a bit off-kilter. (Yes?)

93 posted on 05/30/2010 4:20:14 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Faith

The saducees didn’t want the apostles preaching the truth and falsely imprisoned them in acts 5

What does that have to do with God placing civil authorities over them and following laws have to do with acts 5


94 posted on 05/30/2010 4:28:08 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Colofornian

I don’t believe in abortion in every case. But when someone saves the life of a mother I wouldn’t call it abortion. There are medical reasons.


95 posted on 05/30/2010 4:29:53 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: worst-case scenario

should have pinged you sorry


96 posted on 05/30/2010 4:31:26 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: sabe@q.com
I don’t believe in abortion in every case. But when someone saves the life of a mother I wouldn’t call it abortion. There are medical reasons.

Medical reasons like what? An ectopic pregnancy? Yes. But in that case, the baby is going to die, anyway, and will kill the mom in the process. So that is a rare but genuine case of "self-defense."

Tell me, what other "medical reasons" does a doc know where yes, 100% (like an ectopic situation), he can diagnostically or "prophetically" say, "This baby will kill Mom if we don't get him or her out of there?" (before a late-term early induced pregnancy situation, that is)

97 posted on 05/30/2010 4:34:37 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

I’m not a MD


98 posted on 05/30/2010 4:35:45 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: sabe@q.com

“I’m not a MD”

Really? Good. As a laymen then, answer the question.


99 posted on 05/30/2010 4:37:03 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Colofornian

The original comment indicated that abortions were being performed in the Catholic hospital, all I did was point out that this was false, I made no attempt to defend the hospital.


100 posted on 05/30/2010 4:40:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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