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N. Korea: The nightmare scenario (time to prepare for the hair-raising end game)
Economist ^ | 05/27/10

Posted on 05/28/2010 6:24:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

N. Korea: The nightmare scenario (time to prepare for the catastrophic end)

The nightmare scenario

May 27th 2010

From The Economist print edition

Time for North Korea’s friends and foes to start preparing for the worst

DID the warped Machiavellians of Pyongyang miscalculate when they launched the torpedo that blew apart a South Korean warship two months ago? Proof of one of the worst breaches of the armistice that ended the Korean war 57 years ago has roiled waters far beyond the Korean peninsula. Escalating tensions have even helped rattle global financial markets. Thus far, North Korea’s reckless belligerence has mostly been met with an impressive show of resolve by South Korea, Japan and America. But North Korea could yet raise the stakes again. Time for all of North Korea’s neighbours to start thinking of how they might together deal with some of the unthinkables they have hitherto tried hard to ignore (see article).

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What if…

If China cannot have a grown-up discussion with America about something as clear-cut as the attack on the Cheonan, how much greater will be the danger of miscommunication in the event of something hitherto unthinkable happening: an outbreak of war, say, a nuclear incident, or the collapse of the regime. Anything that sparked fears of “loose nukes” or a refugee crisis, with American and Chinese troops aiming nervously at each other across North Korean territory, could quickly make the Korean peninsula the most dangerous place on earth. China ignores such risks at its peril.

/snip

But the Dear Leader is not immortal, and when he dies the succession is likely to be fraught with danger. At that point the neighbouring powers will desperately need to talk to each other through mechanisms that currently barely exist.

(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nkorea; walmartsuppliers; worstcase
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To: jocon307

Some Economist articles are good. If this is any consolation, they went liberal on many issues over the years. So you may not get money worth when you evaluate the whole magazine content.


21 posted on 05/28/2010 7:15:29 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Squantos

While I’m no fan of W-M, if we avoid active combat there, I will give them full credit.


22 posted on 05/28/2010 7:16:03 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: Jack Black

Ping.


23 posted on 05/28/2010 7:17:39 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: Lazamataz

But you would still hit it


24 posted on 05/28/2010 7:23:17 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Fantasywriter

Yep, although possibly crude.

North Korea a Nuclear Proliferator, U.N. Report Says
http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20100528_4227.php

Last nuclear test was...this time last year!

North Korea faced its most recent U.N. Security Council sanctions after conducting a second nuclear test in May 2009.


25 posted on 05/28/2010 7:25:36 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

Thanks for the link. I finished reading the article excerpted at the top of this thread, and at the very end I noticed the writer/writers alluded to N. Korea’s “nuclear weapons” as if they were a fait accompli. I don’t know how I managed to miss that. It’s scary. If you want one person’s opinion, yes, I think Kim would use them. What a nightmare, to quote from the title of the thread. It’s no exaggeration, either.


26 posted on 05/28/2010 7:29:55 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: investigateworld

One of these days nobody will blink......


27 posted on 05/28/2010 7:36:26 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

At some point in history, the Chinese will drop the veil of cooperation with the United States because they will no longer need the United States. They will have mined as much technology and information from our businesses and government as possible, and our consumer class will have become impoverished to the point that doing business with it no longer represents any sort of a geopolitical deterrent.

When that point in history is is anyone’s guess.


28 posted on 05/28/2010 7:37:39 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: TSgt
"It begs the question, what would Hitler have done if he had just a couple crude nuclear devices? A Chinese analyst recently stated that we must realize that North Korea is not a “rational actor.”

All the more reason for ROK to get this taken care of now...and the US as well. Japan and China have a stake here too.

It's time for the DPRK regime to go.

29 posted on 05/28/2010 7:39:46 PM PDT by Mariner (The first Presidential candidate to call for deportation, wins.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for the ping.


30 posted on 05/28/2010 7:49:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump!


31 posted on 05/28/2010 8:04:07 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Dear Leader has not been seen in over a week. Is there anything to lead you to believe he has been given a sleeping potion or needle, possibly of the permanent type?


32 posted on 05/28/2010 8:09:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: jocon307

Indeed, jocon307m, South Korea is very “loth to contemplate a breakdown in the North because of the cost of unification, given a disparity in living standards that is far greater than newly united Germany had to cope with.” Asia is as Asia does, and charitable, brotherly love is something Asia don’t do.

North Korea’s attack may have “roiled waters far beyond the Korean peninsula”, escalated tensions rattled global financial markets, but the impressive show of resolve by South Korea, Japan and America is all about the Benjamins. Those North Koreans are consigned to utter destitution for now and forever. Nobody wants ‘em, nobody cares about ‘em, and there ain’t no money in helping ‘em. See “most of Africa” for more info.


33 posted on 05/28/2010 8:10:12 PM PDT by flowerplough (Damn the middle-class social conventions that require me to mow all those violets and buttercups!)
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To: Travis McGee
As I said in another thread, the latest words out of N. Korea is that:

He is suspected to be near his command bunker in Yanggang Province. One other account claims that he is going around the neighborhood, ‘looking for a nice spot,’ which prompted those accompanying him to speculate that he is looking for a spot for his grave.

But who knows? The account in this story is several days old. It is possible that his health took a dive. It is also likely that he is hunkering down in the most secure bunker of his country, mindful of possible military retaliation or internal unrest or coup. I hope he is in his death bed.

34 posted on 05/28/2010 8:14:53 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Travis McGee

Kim disappeared from public view for more than 50 days after U.S. destroyed Saddam Hussein’s regime with ‘relative ease.’ A lot faster than many expected.


35 posted on 05/28/2010 8:16:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Does he indulge in opiates during his stressful times in the secret command bunkers?

Maybe he’ll take (or be administered) the Michael Jackson remedy.


36 posted on 05/28/2010 8:18:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The world must shame China. They are the sole prop for the wretched Kim regime, and the deaths of millions of Koreans by man-made starvation and abuse is the responsibility of China.

All because they seek a weak, pliant, puppet-state on their border for perceived national security.

China has sown many evil seeds in Korea - and they will not have security because of this.


37 posted on 05/28/2010 8:23:48 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Travis McGee
He started smoking and drinking again. He stopped smoking for several years prior to his stroke. Doctors suspect that he is doing so because of post-stroke depression.

There are indeed stories coming out of N. Korea claiming that Chia Head doing drug, probably METH. It was a story circulating(in hush-hush manner) among soldiers at military's central communication headquarter in Pyongyang. It is possible but I am not sure about this allegation.

38 posted on 05/28/2010 8:24:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: PGR88

Yes, we should denounce them instead of imploring them to change their attitude. China’s image in S. Korea is taking a dive. Japan became the beneficiary of this backlash because Japan is seen much better compared with China.


39 posted on 05/28/2010 8:29:14 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China has always held North Korea on a leash, and does so today. If the Norkies are doing this, it is because China is ALLOWING it. Period. It somehow serves THEIR greater purposes, it fulfills their greater designs. For that reason neither China NOR the UN Security Council, on which China also sits and has a permanent Veto privilege, will be of any assistance, and to the contrary will be a major hindrance. When we realize that truth, THEN we might have a chance of actually dealing successfully and finally with the North Korean (and perhaps the China) problem. Until then, forget it.


40 posted on 05/28/2010 9:00:44 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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