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1 posted on 05/28/2010 2:40:04 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: Jet Jaguar

“We don’t need no new-fangled fighters” ping.


2 posted on 05/28/2010 2:43:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: sonofstrangelove
How could a few thousand white Europeans, from the 16th Century to the early 20th Century dominate the Americas, Africa and much of Asia?

By having far superior weaponry, not by having white skin.

There is a lesson there.

3 posted on 05/28/2010 2:45:41 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: sonofstrangelove

This is so upsetting. I know the Raptors are expensive but owning the sky is essential. These libs, Gates included, want to be part of another gubmint via casualty of war.


4 posted on 05/28/2010 2:49:02 PM PDT by mcshot (The compounding nightmare is neverending.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
When are we gong to wake up?
When Red Dawn becomes a reality?
5 posted on 05/28/2010 2:49:39 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: sonofstrangelove

IT still won’t be enough for them to beat us. It will still be a plane made in China. Hell it will still have melamine and lead issues, I’m sure.


6 posted on 05/28/2010 2:51:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
China will be capable of deploying an advanced fifth generation fighter comparable to the U.S. F-22 within eight years, years ahead of previous Pentagon assessments.

I guess we need to start looking for Chinese spies in the F22 development team.

8 posted on 05/28/2010 2:53:30 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: mowowie; Captain Beyond; Boiler Plate

Ping


11 posted on 05/28/2010 3:00:48 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Bold)
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To: sonofstrangelove
This is looking more and more like the Carter years. We were hearing the same about the Soviet's Backfire bomber in the late 70's.

Here's to hoping we have at least one more Reagan Recovery in us.

12 posted on 05/28/2010 3:01:50 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Letting the Chinese leapfrog us in the technology will bring very bad things down the road.
14 posted on 05/28/2010 3:08:32 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: sonofstrangelove; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Impy; SandRat; ExTexasRedhead

Thanks, Bill Clinton./heavy sarcasm


15 posted on 05/28/2010 3:12:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The Chicoms own our debt, why not give them the skies too Obama!


16 posted on 05/28/2010 3:17:56 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

When the current admin is done they will buy us all giant foam hands with two fingers up with “We’re #2” on them.


17 posted on 05/28/2010 3:23:47 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Thanks sonofstrangelove.
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "There's only one possible response -- *cancel* the F-22 program now, before we waste more money on it!"

18 posted on 05/28/2010 3:30:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: sonofstrangelove

We need more F-22s. There’s no doubt about that in my mind. I don’t think China’s verson will be nearly as good as ours, but... who really knows.

You don’t wait until the enemy has caught up to you or has passed you to take action.

We need to take Congress back this November, then fully fund another four to five hundred F-22s.

You don’t deter the enemy, by convincing him you are giving up.


19 posted on 05/28/2010 3:33:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The saddest part is that Obama/Gates totally shut down the F-22 line instead of maintaining a 7 plane per year production rate which would have preserved the tooling and, more importantly, the trained skill set to ramp up if necessary.

Restarting the line from scratch will be virtually impossible - and even if successful - terribly costly.


22 posted on 05/28/2010 3:49:14 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Which got me thinking of)
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To: sonofstrangelove
I would buy more F-22's as much as I can and to fill the holes budgetwise, I'd also go with the F-15SE, an upgraded F-15, the SE mean "Silent Eagle." Too bad we didn't keep our F-14's flying, even today, they are a technological marvel. I'd even reconsider the F-20, an upgraded, higher tech, F-5 to save money. That's the trouble, we are hurting budgetwise and I don't think we can have all the F-22's we want although instead of stopping just below 200, I'd go for at least 300 and use the F-15SE and F-20's to cover the gap and possible recommission the F-14's. I'd toss in more F-16's and for the Navy, F-18 Super Hornets

I think though, before the military suffers, we need to cut all the entitlement programs but with Bammy in there, not likely.

I'd cut bait on the F-35 JSF, it screams "JUNK" to me and I'd go with the F-22's along with uprating current, actually 1970's/1980's era, planes along with new and improved models.
23 posted on 05/28/2010 3:52:08 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
We are going to Rue the day the Boy president canceled the f-22.

There should have been many more produced before that line was shut down.

25 posted on 05/28/2010 3:55:50 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: sonofstrangelove

With all the money saved when mac daddy canceled this he was able to purchase an entire mountain of hand sized rock that the military can throw at the enemy as they are shooting at our troops.


27 posted on 05/28/2010 3:59:07 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: sonofstrangelove

I think this is BS. The only thing China has been good at in terms of weapondary is copying and stealing.


34 posted on 05/28/2010 6:00:45 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: sonofstrangelove
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, in defending his decision to end production of the F-22, stated last year that China "is projected to have no fifth-generation aircraft by 2020."

Well, they probably weren't planning to until we canceled the F-22 and they saw an opportunity.

38 posted on 05/28/2010 8:15:01 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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