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1 posted on 05/23/2010 12:06:17 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
This whole thing should be a Comedy Central joke. A caricature of unrealistic political programs perhaps. But no is actually being proposed by grown men in positions of great responsibility! For Kerry it is his norm, but I expected better from Lieberman! They should be thrown into jail for being public frauds living off of taxpayer money!
2 posted on 05/23/2010 12:27:33 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: neverdem

This is like some kind of Mystery Science Theater 3000 nightmare. Storing carbon dioxide underground?! Who comes up with this stuff?


3 posted on 05/23/2010 12:33:11 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: neverdem
An entirely pointless exercise in capital wasting FedGov high-handedness.

Greenhouse theory is pure bunkum.

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4 posted on 05/23/2010 12:38:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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5 posted on 05/23/2010 1:06:22 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (70 mph shouldn't be a speed limit; it shoud be a mandate!)
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6 posted on 05/23/2010 1:33:09 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

I thought that plants liked carbon dioxide, helped em grow. More carbon dioxide = bigger, better plants = more food.


7 posted on 05/23/2010 1:37:14 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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Let’s take the first problem......

Howzabout we deal with the real problem here...C02 causing globull warming/climate change is COMPLETE BARBARA STREISAND!!!!
9 posted on 05/23/2010 2:00:12 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!! Be prepared for what's coming AFTER America......)
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To: neverdem
The $10 Trillion Climate Fraud (Cap-And-Trade and CCX)
Cap-And-Trade: While senators froth over Goldman Sachs and derivatives, a
climate trading scheme being run out of the Chicago Climate Exchange would
make Bernie Madoff blush. Its trail leads to the White House.”


“Fannie Mae Chief Executive Officer Franklin Raines, two of his top underlings and select
individuals in the "green" movement were inventing a patented system to trade residential carbon credits.
Patent No. 6904336 was approved by the U.S. Patent and Trade Office on Nov. 7, 2006 --
the day after Democrats took control of Congress. Former Sen. John Sununu, R-N.H.,
criticized the award at the time, pointing out that it had "nothing to do with Fannie Mae's charter, nothing to do with making mortgages more affordable."

"It wasn't about mortgages. It was about greenbacks. The patent, which Fannie Mae confirmed it still owns with Cantor Fitzgerald subsidiary CO2e.com, gives the mortgage giant a lock on the fledgling carbon trading market, thus also giving it a major financial stake in the success of cap-and-trade legislation."


“Here comes the next bubble -- carbon trading
Forget CDOs and other inventions of the great credit bubble. That’s all old hat.
Investment bankers are moving on to an area of securities trading that is potentially even
more lucrative, and what’s more, even has a social value – saving the planet.
….According to Mr Schapiro, carbon trading is now the fastest growing commodities
market on earth. Since Kyoto signatories bought in to the cap and trade concept in 2005,
there have been more than $300bn carbon transactions, prompting several investment
banks, including Goldman Sachs and Barclays, to set up their own carbon trading desks.
But that’s just the start. If President Obama and his supporters can institute a cap-and-
trade system in the United States – and that’s a big if for this increasingly marooned
presidency – demand could explode into a $2 to $3 trillion market.

And here’s the great thing about it. Unlike traditional commodities markets, which will
eventually involve delivery to someone in physical form, the carbon market is based on
lack of delivery of an invisible substance to no-one. Since the market revolves around
creating carbon credits, or finding carbon reduction projects whose benefits can then be
sold to those with a surplus of emissions, it is entirely intangible.

“Carbon developers”, many of them employed by large multinationals, travel the world
in search of carbon reduction projects to sell, while firms of carbon accountants have been
established to verify on the United Nations’ behalf that those reductions are real.
The whole thing, though well intentioned, looks wide open to abuse and scams. “

10 posted on 05/23/2010 2:54:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States Â… shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: neverdem

It won’t work of course, but it makes a good sound bite in a campaign ad. That’s reason enough to blow 4.5 billion.


12 posted on 05/23/2010 3:14:09 AM PDT by kamikaze2000 (You can lead a liberal to truth, but you can't make him think.)
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To: neverdem

Laughable.

As someone else posted, a comedy central joke.

and that network ain’t funny.


13 posted on 05/23/2010 3:27:41 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: neverdem

John Kerry and Joseph Lieberman

Two clueless morons


14 posted on 05/23/2010 3:35:40 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: neverdem
In other words, we would need to find an underground location (or locations) able to swallow a volume equal to the contents of 41 oil supertankers each day, 365 days a year.

I don't know what to say anymore. These are all schemes to make some people a ton of money - all the while, the same people, are shouting about redistribution of wealth.

16 posted on 05/23/2010 3:51:41 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: neverdem
Hurry up and buy your worthless paper "Carbon Offset" certificates before the Ponzie scheme collapses.


19 posted on 05/23/2010 5:07:58 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: neverdem
ON Wednesday, John Kerry and Joseph Lieberman introduced their long-awaited Senate energy bill

Long awaited by whom Frances?

Al Gore & George Soros?

20 posted on 05/23/2010 5:18:03 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: neverdem

I just love these Friday Silliness threads!


21 posted on 05/23/2010 5:26:37 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Defending the Constitution is CENTRIST; not RIGHT WING! Don't be labeled!)
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To: neverdem
Casual observers with a modicum of science education have to be scratching their collective heads about this fuss over carbon.

Is carbon a hazard? No. It's an essential component of life here on planet Earth. We are 'carbon based lifeforms' and the plant life we depend upon require carbon dioxide for us all to live. Why would we want less? How stupid is that?

Does carbon cause the planet to warm? I learned about the green house effect in grade school, but I've since learned that water vapor is the real mover and shaker in the world of green house gases. Carbon dioxide is a tiny percentage of our atmosphere and it's a stretch to give it such prominence.

Besides, we have more than enough data showing that temperature leads carbon dioxide concentration. So, if we use the theory the global warmers are using, does that mean that temperature increase 'causes' carbon dioxide increase? And, if we need carbon dioxide to live, lets warm things up!

Bottom line? Cap and trade is another way for politicians to tax the stupid with the added benefit of having the stupid demand that politicians take their money. Sweet deal.

22 posted on 05/23/2010 5:52:46 AM PDT by GBA (Resistance is Constitutional!)
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To: neverdem

An attempt to deprive the plants on earth a means for life.


23 posted on 05/23/2010 6:05:23 AM PDT by chainsaw ( 'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal)
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To: neverdem

J Fn K is more of a pollutant than CO2 will ever be!


26 posted on 05/23/2010 7:14:10 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: neverdem

In 50 years, people will look back at this era of mass hysteria and won’t be able to believe it. History repeats...and....repeats


27 posted on 05/23/2010 8:39:17 AM PDT by dila813
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To: neverdem

Yucca Mountain?


29 posted on 05/23/2010 11:16:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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