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To: Huck
There's a saying in politics - you can't beat someone with no one. It means no matter how bad the other party's guy is, you've still got to put up someone better.

If Anti-federalists are actually going to try to resurrect the Articles of Confederation - adjudged by everyone as a failure after only 6 years over 220 years ago - hey, good luck with that. If Anti-federalists aren't going to try to resurrect the Articles of Confederation, they'll actually have to come up with a document, or or they can just be irrelevant. Their call. No tickee, no shirtee.

57 posted on 05/23/2010 9:59:58 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: Cheburashka
they'll actually have to come up with a document, or or they can just be irrelevant.

I think it's pretty obvious that antifederalism (actual federalism) has been politically irrelevant, as you point out, for a very long time.

It's not a question of coming up with "a document." The Constitution forever changed the FORM of government. It went from a simple Congress of states to a consolidated nation/empire. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube on that one.

The relevance of it all, to me, is to better understand the current situation. Antifederalist writings help me understand it all much better. It helps me understand that the Constitution is the source of the problems.

60 posted on 05/23/2010 1:35:10 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Cheburashka
After Independence in 1776, the thirteen sovereign states wrote Constitutions. Every one provided for divided government in three branches. If leagues, or associations, or confederacies were so great, why did the states not organize their governments in such a fashion?

Answer: Confederacies do not constitute government.

63 posted on 05/23/2010 2:22:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Support and defend our beloved Constitution.)
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