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To: Cheburashka
they'll actually have to come up with a document, or or they can just be irrelevant.

I think it's pretty obvious that antifederalism (actual federalism) has been politically irrelevant, as you point out, for a very long time.

It's not a question of coming up with "a document." The Constitution forever changed the FORM of government. It went from a simple Congress of states to a consolidated nation/empire. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube on that one.

The relevance of it all, to me, is to better understand the current situation. Antifederalist writings help me understand it all much better. It helps me understand that the Constitution is the source of the problems.

60 posted on 05/23/2010 1:35:10 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Huck
I think it's pretty obvious that antifederalism (actual federalism)(fixed it) has been politically irrelevant, as you point out, for a very long time.

Well, as long as you admit your political beliefs are irrelevant, I have no choice but to agree with you. Of course, the reason you give is specious. You can't beat something with nothing. The Anti-federalists weren't able to come up with an alternative document back in the 1780's and whatever heirs they have still can't come up with that alternative document. For the sake of argument assuming the Constitution was all bad, wrong, evil, pernicious, (insert additional negative adjectives here), you would think the Anti-federalist Constitution should be leaping off their pens... well, to update the image leaping off their keyboards. Yet the mountains groan and bring forth... nothing, not even a mouse.

Even if there were no chance of implementation today, you would think Anti-federalists would memorialize their improved document for the sake of future generations.

I'm certainly not going to hold my breath waiting for the Anti-federalist unicorn.

64 posted on 05/23/2010 5:34:04 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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