Posted on 05/14/2010 11:02:15 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
U.S. House candidate Chris Nelson earlier this week dismissed “birther” statements attributed to him and said he believes Barack Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen and the legitimately elected president of the United States.
So does Eleanor Nordyke — and according to her, she should know.
Nordyke, 82, of Honolulu, Hawaii, says that on Aug. 4, 1961, she was in labor with her twin daughters Susan and Gretchen at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital — the same place Barack Obama was being born. The hospital has since been renamed Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children.
“Birthers” is the term given to those who believe Obama was not born in the United States and does not, therefore, meet a primary qualification for the presidency.
Nordyke, in a Friday telephone interview with The Daily Republic, said the birthers have consistently discounted her testimony. She is certain they are wrong.
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That may be the reporter's sloppiness.
Mrs. Nordyke was talking about things that have been discussed in recent days, but the reporter writes that she "recalls" things she almost certainly didn't know at the time.
Essentially, there isn't any story or any authoritative information here, but the reporter is trying to make it look like Mrs. Nordyke has valuable first-hand evidence (which she just doesn't have).
True.
I have no idea who had babies when I had mine.
I do know that Jimmy Carter’s neice (or something) was in labor the same time I was with my first baby. I only know because my sister was in the waiting room while my husband was in the back trying to shut me up. :)
“I’ve changed my mind. I don’t want it. Throw it out the window!” (Yes, I actually said that.)
“While race seems to be an issue with birthers...”
BS article.
The “birthers” are still awaiting plenty of other sealed and highly-protected documentation to be concerned with this analysis.
Simply not true, as I've already explained. There is no such definition in US law.
No. It is enough, and was long before 1961.
Obama could have used on his forged COLB both the certificate number and the “date filed” from the little girl’s non-certified COLB (which the HDOH was authorized to give him. They’re also authorized to give it to me, but they won’t.) If he had done so, there wouldn’t be a discrepancy between his “date filed” and the certificate number.
Thank you for your hard work and patriotism, butterdezillion.
This is a chilling tale: BO stole the paperwork of a dead child to pass off as his own.
The Supreme Court told us the definition of natural born citizen is extraconstitutional. It is not defined by U.S. law or the Constitution, and they proceeded to say that without doubt, it is someone born in a country to parents who are its citizens, citing the Vattel definition nearly word for word.
In most states, there are estate laws which require the public recording of wills and probate.
Does Hawaii have public records for the disposition of the estate of the parents and/or grandparents?
Nor is there a definition for things like "commerce", but there is a commonly understood meaning for the term, at the time it was committed, and historcal reference to support a claim that the understanding that children born on US soil to foreign parents were not "natural born citizens" at that time.
151 1961 010641 number from FactCheck photo of Obama COLB
151 61 10637 number from photo of long form birth certificate of Susan Nordyke
Why does Obama’s number have 19 after the 151 and Nordyke’s does not?
Why does Nordyke’s have 0 in front of 10641 and Obama’s does not?
BECAUSE o’S IS A FAKE, OF COURSE...
:)
THEY MUST HAVE BEEN RUSHING TO GET THE JOB DONE.
LITTLE DETAILS, LITTLE DETAILS....
SEE #207, #212
The “what it’s worth” question is pretty well covered by the fact that a South Dakota paper with a circulation of 12,000 landed the interview.
An interracial baby would not have left an impression so neither would it's mother. I was much too involved with my own baby to pay attention to another's.
So I doubt a woman with twins would have paid much attention to another's baby or for that matter, it's mother.
It's not a question of juding anyone, it's one of observation.
In those days, the babies were in the nursery most of the time. The mothers were in their rooms, usually two woman to a room, but sometimes it was a ward, with lots of women in the same room. Lots of time to talk, and observe the other ladies' visitors.
Probably just the difference between the 1961 BC form and practices of 1961, and those of the COLB form and practices of 2007.
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