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The second debt storm; Who will bail out the countries that bailed out the world's corporations?
Dow Jones / MarketWatch ^ | 2010-05-14 | Alistair Barr

Posted on 05/14/2010 7:46:47 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Edited on 05/14/2010 7:54:51 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The financial crisis never really went away.

The debt mountain that brought down some of the world's biggest banks and dragged the international financial system to the brink of disaster has simply shifted to governments. Now, it's threatening countries around the globe and if left unchecked could rip the very fabric of Europe's economic system and wreck economic recoveries in the U.S., China and Latin America.


(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; biggovernment; debt; financialcrisis; greece; panicof2010; sovereigndebt

1 posted on 05/14/2010 7:46:47 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 05/14/2010 7:48:19 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

It’s like bailing a boat with a fork.


3 posted on 05/14/2010 7:53:08 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: CanaGuy
It’s like bailing a boat with a fork.

I think it is more like bailing out a boat by putting the water into another boat.

4 posted on 05/14/2010 8:03:34 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Fun! Maybe people will stop trading one master for another and realize who useless and corrupt both the corporations and governments are and how screwed “we the people are”.

Hahaha!!! I jest, we'll never wake up.

5 posted on 05/14/2010 8:05:08 AM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is the end-game. Cripple the western nations with debt, then restructure them under new leaders, new social rights and new agendas.


6 posted on 05/14/2010 8:05:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Who will bail out the countries that bailed out the world’s corporations?”

The folks reading this article and many millions of others. And their grandchildren’s grandchildren.


7 posted on 05/14/2010 8:07:00 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: rightwingcrazy

“Who will bail out the countries that bailed out the world’s corporations?”

China will take your country and freedom in trade.


8 posted on 05/14/2010 8:12:40 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: blam

blam, I have a question, what do you think would happen if the US federal government reversed course and announced massive budget cuts as opposed to spending worse than a drunken sailor? I’m talking about (fantasy talk I know) rescinding the balance of the “stimulus” and returning the money to the Treasury, sending all returned TARP funds (and interest) to the Treasury, reversing course on Obamacare, cutting all discretionary and non discretionary spending, nothing spared. I tend to believe the markets would actually respond favorably, that fiscal discipline would be greatly repected. What do you think?


9 posted on 05/14/2010 8:16:04 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yeah, well I’m gonna drill holes in the bottom of my boat to let the water out faster.


10 posted on 05/14/2010 8:20:01 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: rabscuttle385

Stuff that wars are made from.


11 posted on 05/14/2010 8:22:51 AM PDT by Diggity
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To: rabscuttle385

Ummm, the Greeks bought too much, saved too little, and assumed they’d never have to pay the piper... Greece didn’t “bailout” anyone...


12 posted on 05/14/2010 9:21:17 AM PDT by GOPJ (Americans..speak of capitalism's glories(rather)than of socialism's greatness. Elena Kagan (thesis))
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To: moose2004
blam, I have a question, what do you think would happen if the US federal government reversed course and announced massive budget cuts as opposed to spending worse than a drunken sailor? I’m talking about (fantasy talk I know) rescinding the balance of the “stimulus” and returning the money to the Treasury, sending all returned TARP funds (and interest) to the Treasury, reversing course on Obamacare, cutting all discretionary and non discretionary spending, nothing spared. I tend to believe the markets would actually respond favorably, that fiscal discipline would be greatly repected. What do you think?

You would get a deflationary depression or severe recession that is deflationary. Because you will have destroyed trillions of dollars. This makes all surviving dollars worth more. Inflation is when your dollars are decreasing in value and buying power

Maybe the deflationary "cleansing route" is the way to go and maybe it is inevitable but we are always putting off this day of reckoning by bubbles and extreme stimulouses....you are mentioning just a part of the overall 0bama-stimulous

13 posted on 05/14/2010 9:45:21 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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Thank you for the info, I guess I am talking about a “Darwinism Flush” the more I think about it. I left out all the toxic assets that the Fed and large banks still have on their books, should we “flush” these as well, take our medicine now and get it over with? I know it would hurt badly in the short term, but wouldn’t it get us out of the woods quicker? Obviously you can tell I’m no economist.


14 posted on 05/14/2010 10:48:13 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe aliens from The First Bank of Mars will give the earth a quadrillion dollar loan!?! We have friggin’ idiots and looters running every country in the world now.


15 posted on 05/14/2010 12:46:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: dennisw

I’m not so sure. The Stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy. So... why would massive fiscal cuts be recessionary?


16 posted on 05/14/2010 8:33:48 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: panaxanax

How do you turn private debt of the oligarchs into taxpayer obligations? Why, hire a bunch of absolutely corrupt politicians to protect the public interest.


17 posted on 05/16/2010 6:11:36 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: rabscuttle385

Ask yourself. Who bailed out the Roman Empire during the Dark Ages? No one, that’s who. Read up on the Dark Ages, because we are heading there again.


18 posted on 05/16/2010 6:13:41 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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