Posted on 05/12/2010 6:32:25 PM PDT by Maggie Maggie Maggie
Honor Islam! Or We Keel you! ! ! ! !
The above is attributed to Palisimian Rage Boy.
Give them a chopadicophame.
I am so shocked that this is being endorsed in America. We are allowing these people to make US adapt to them instead of the other way around the way it should be.
Well-stated.
The same vacuum being created by the destruction of capitalism (so sharia financing and/or communism can come in and save the day) is also being created in law enforcement. A society can’t survive where there is anarchy, which is what our lawlessness is devolving into. A society so frustrated by there being no justice is ripe to accept a system which cuts off the hand of somebody who steals.
I can remember back a couple decades when I first heard about the Muslim seriousness about law enforcement. While the US was barely tapping thieves on the hand the Muslims were cutting off the hand of a thief. I thought, “At least somebody takes crime seriously.”
That’s the kind of environment that Obama (with help from suit-happy lawyers and folks like the ACLU) is fostering here. If he can stir us up to racial riots, vigilante justice, etc then there is reason for a crackdown - initially by martial law but eventually by a SYSTEM that the people would embrace because it took crime seriously for a change: Islam.
If we let him dismantle the rule of law in this country the outcomes will be horrific. We HAVE to learn just how serious this crisis of lawlessness really is.
I posted an article about how vital I believe the rule of law is at my blog at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com .
And in the not-very-distant future these doctors will be fully endorsing complete clitorectomies!
Male circumcision has proven medical benefits. There is absolutely no medical reason for female circumcision, aka genital mutilation
Male circumcision has absolutely no medical benefit....none...nada....0
Wouldn’t have anything to do with the *Muzzies* by any chance? [Duh!]
That Mohammed had to be a pervert for this atrocity to be in law.
If you believe in circumcision, then you can trot down to a surgeon and have yourself mutilated, once you are an adult. No one has the right to mutilate the genitals of his child, and very few adults would choose to have this procedure. It is child abuse, pure and simple.
Any physician who participates in this barbarity should be charged with felony assault and child abuse.
Exactly.
It's not "strange", it's the one and only reason for this oddball policy statement. The whackjobs that are trying to outlaw male circumcision keep failing to convince anybody who matters with their whackjob claims that it does horrible lifelong damage to boys/men, especially since strong evidence keeps piling up to show that it reduces the risk of AIDS and HPV transmission (the latter being responsible for nearly all cervical cancer and the much rarer penile cancer). If the APA wants, very rationally, to continue to maintain the position that circumcision is fine because it does no harm, they're hard-pressed to make an intellectually defensible argument that a tiny nick on a girl's genitals can't be tolerated as a modernized form of a barbaric cultural tradition. Ritual nicking has a precedent in converts to Judaism (including young juvenile males who are being converted only at their converting parents' direction). Those who previously underwent ordinary medical circumcision, and so can't undergo the usual ritual circumcision, instead have a tiny nick done to draw a drop of symbolic blood. Again, if this is permissible (and many "brands" of Jews would howl up a political storm if it was deemed impermissible), how can a comparable nick to a girl's genitals be legally impermissible? I'm not endorsing the notion of ritual nicking of girls' genitals, nor do I think for a second that any parents exist who would accept this as a substitute for a barbaric mutilation that they otherwise intended to have done to their daughter. But the APA is trying to deal with the law here. As long as we respect the Constitution's guarantee of religious freedom, and are allowing infant male circumcision and ritual nicking of older minor males in the name of religious or cultural traditions, there's no intellectually defensible argument for deeming nicking of a girl's genitals to be illegal. We need to support intellectual honesty when it comes to the law and the Constitution, or we might as well forget about ever getting the courts and the legislatures clear on what the 2A's "shall not be infringed" actually means.
Animals treat their young better. These people are monsters. A boycott of any doctors who agree with this ought to be started. Muslims need to adapt to our way of life & not push their muslim agenda on us. They can stay in their stinking countries if they want to behave like monsters.
The same way we don’t permit settee.
Lawlessness creates a situation where people are willing to accept any form of tyranny just so that they can survive, feeling their chances with a tyrannical government are better than their chances with feral individuals around them.
Much of Islamic “law,” however, is ritual law, and much of the enforcement is enforcement of ritual law: things like women being covered head to toe, not being seen with males other than their direct family members, or men perceived as “insulting” Islam by using the wrong hand to wipe themselves are punished very severely, including with death. Islam makes no distinction between the religious and the secular, and in fact, ideally its secular rulers are also the religious rulers.
Christianity has always distinguished between God and Caesar, although of course feeling that in the ideal state, behavior must be shaped by an awareness and acceptance of God’s law. Furthermore, this does not refer to ritual law, but to morality. Very early on, when the Apostles decided that it was not necessary for new Christians to observe Jewish ritual law but instead to accept Jewish/Christian moral law, this concept became clear. It was therefore possible for this to provide a moral foundation for secular society as well, as the Christianizing of European rulers and their kingdoms spread.
I think the modern problem is not merely that we fail to enforce the law, but that we have ceased to hold to the moral law that underlies our legal system. It seems to be okay, for example, for certain groups in our society to murder, because after all, they were slaves once and we have to consider the resentment they still feel; it seems to be okay for others to plot to kill thousands of our citizens because, after all, they’re Muslims from dysfunctional countries and they feel insulted by our successful existence; etc.
Everything depends on the subjective interpretation of a peculiar leftist academic/government combine that has taken over our intellectual and legal fields here. Essentially, the thing that lets crime go unpunished is the fact that they don’t really believe there is such a thing as crime, because they don’t accept the underlying morality that shaped our civil society and its laws.
This barbarism is going to be too much for Americans to stomach.
B.S.
“But the APA is trying to deal with the law here. As long as we respect the Constitution’s guarantee of religious freedom, and are allowing infant male circumcision and ritual nicking of older minor males in the name of religious or cultural traditions, there’s no intellectually defensible argument for deeming nicking of a girl’s genitals to be illegal.”
So if my religion tells me to send my son to play with rattlesnakes, the government would be cool with that? If my religion tells me to throw cobras at my kids, that’s fine? If some pervert comes up with a ‘religion’ to sodomize his adopted son, that’s ok?
B.S. This is just a suck-up to a lunatic barbaric murder cult. Forget it.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but the girl will feel pain when she’s aroused. That’s a form of torture.
Again, very well-stated.
The natural conclusion of post-modernism is lawlessness. It’s suicidal.
Feral individuals. That describes it well. That’s what it feels like. Obama and the media keep trying to paint the tea party people as being that way but it’s really the mindless hoodlums that they’ve bred through a communist educational system that fit that description.
SICKOS!
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