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Jewish Donors Outraged by 'Sociopath' Obama, Says Columnist
inn ^ | 5/12/10 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 05/12/2010 9:56:23 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: SWAMPSNIPER; All
Jews...don't seem to be into the individuality thing.

You might be surprised to find an overrepresentation of Jews in the libertarian movement historically. I'm thinking of prominent names like Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard, Hayek, and von Mises. The last four were very important free market economists.

101 posted on 05/12/2010 12:58:00 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: nolongerademocrat

I have read that only 10% to 15% of people who are considered to be Jews today are in anyway connected to those who lived in Judea at the time of Christ. If that is factual then there are probably many other reasons that there are so many diverse opinions on who’s who and what it all means.


102 posted on 05/12/2010 1:01:04 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: Jewbacca

jewbacca,

I do not want to insult you or debate with you. However, your post begs for what I’m about to say.

You’re taking this personal and being defensive. it almost appears as though you are playing the race card, kinda... and there is no need for you to do any of that.

You’re on a thread about American-Jews, specifically those that helped to put that traitor bastard in office..... NOT Jews in general and NOT conservative Jews.

As for your question, “Do you have the same hatred for Roman Catholics?”... my answer is ABSOLUTELY YES. The same can be said for Baptists, or any other religion or race.

It’s not just about American-Jews... it’s about the damn libs of whatever persuasion.

I shouldn’t have to say this, but I support the Jews in Israel as well as conservative Jews here. I also support conservative Blacks, but I hate the 98% of the worthless, lazy, black morons that helped to put that white hating and country destroying bastard in office.

One could argue that we shouldn’t put people in groups, but we didn’t... they, as traitors and idiots, did this to themselves.

Our country’s troubles have become less about politics and far more about survival of these dem POS that are working overtime to kill this country.

Here is some friendly advise... step back, take a few deep breaths and don’t ever let the traitor bastards wear you down.

Have a wonderful day....


103 posted on 05/12/2010 1:04:42 PM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: Red Badger

“You cannot cheat an honest man............... “

Unless you’re Obama or any of the libs in power.


104 posted on 05/12/2010 1:06:46 PM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: justiceseeker93
There are exceptions to everything, of course.

I know I upset some other Freepers but it seems true that too much adherence to urbanity encourages the surrender of individual liberty.

Thomas Jefferson thought as much too. There are higher ideals than social order, and social order is often the goal of tyrants. Sacrificing too much liberty for the common good can only lead downhill in the long run.

"I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe."

Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Papers 12:442

105 posted on 05/12/2010 1:09:42 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Jewbacca

I found it a while ago on your FR page :-)

I hope those posters are plastered all over Israel.


106 posted on 05/12/2010 1:14:39 PM PDT by Bobalu (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard; Nachum
Any bets he still gets 90%+ of the Jewish vote in the next election? Sadly, for way to many secular Jews, Republican = Hitler no matter who the Dems run or what they do after they get into office.

I'm not so sure. I have some friends that are Jewish and about half of them that voted for 0 the first time say they will never support him again.

107 posted on 05/12/2010 1:15:47 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Nachum

I have a smile on my face! If the money dries up, and it will...Dems are so screwed!


108 posted on 05/12/2010 1:18:37 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Grunthor

Do you know how many Jews are here on Free Republic? Are you wishing death on me? Be careful what you say.


109 posted on 05/12/2010 1:19:27 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: saradippity

When a people starts being called by a “nickname” it tends to stick - sorta like “Yanks” or “Brits”. It doesn’t denote any kind of genetic tie. Judaism does now and has always accepted converts. Converts would not necessarily be genetically related to any particular tribe.

When a person converts to Judaism, they become Jewish in every sense of the word. When a woman converts to Judaism and later has children - those children are Jewish by birth. And the family line is accepted to be Jewish thereafter unless one of them converts to another religion.

The idea that bloodline is the be-all, end-all in Jewish life is a misinterpretation of our texts usually misinterpreted by Christians. I understand that there is a Christian end-time prophecy regarding the 144,000. I understand the Christian hunt for the “Lost Tribes”, I understand the reason behind that hunt and I understand the reasoning behind Christian attempts to convert Jews to Christianity. I also understand the prophecies regarding the Antichrist, the 7 year period, the slaughter of the Jews, the third temple and so on.

But in order for you to understand what I am talking about - you need to understand this about Jews: There is nothing other that G-d. Nothing exists that G-d did not create. There is no place of origination, no place of destination other than G-d. Observant Jews believe that we all stood together in spirit at Sinai - Every Jew who would ever be born was there and that includes those who would convert to Judaism.

If you have questions about the validity of this teaching, please take note of the brilliance of G-d: Christians who believe that bloodlines are so very important - Jesus was from the “line of David” - David, the King of Israel. David, beloved of G-d. David, the murderer, the adulterer. David, slayer of giants and singer of songs. David, the beautiful grandson of a convert.


110 posted on 05/12/2010 1:20:39 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Nachum
Obama has a profound personal commitment to reconciling America with the Muslim world which will override the usual political calculus. Given that he had a Muslim father and stepfather, was raised for four years in Indonesia, and has written with passion about his sympathy for the traditional identity of Indonesian Muslims, this is not surprising.

The Democratic Party thanks you for your support and votes.

111 posted on 05/12/2010 1:21:30 PM PDT by alrea
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To: alrea; Nachum
Obama has a profound personal commitment to reconciling America with the Muslim world which will override the usual political calculus.

There is only one way for the United States (part of Dar al Harb) to be 'reconciled' with Dar al Islam and that is for the United States to become subjugated to Dar al Islam.
112 posted on 05/12/2010 1:24:02 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: newnhdad
I had a neighbor equate the Republicans as small government Nazis.

For a "small government," Nazi Germany did a lot of bad things (WWII, Holocaust, etc.)!

Oh man! If "small government" people are "Nazis," all these "anarchists" running around must be truly horrible people!

113 posted on 05/12/2010 1:25:44 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (LeShim`on, Shelumi'el Ben Tzurishadday.)
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To: Hildy

“Do you know how many Jews are here on Free Republic?”

I happen to be one of them (ethnically) please, please re-read my post w/o the chip on your shoulder.

“Are you wishing death on me?”

In what way did I wish death on any race of people or religion?

I would wait, but I doubt that once you re-read my post, you will respond apologetically.


114 posted on 05/12/2010 1:27:21 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Hildy

In fact I just re-read my own post at #16 and I cannot see where any objective person would reach the same illogical conclusion that you reached. My post was OBVIOUSLY against the donors mentioned in the article....you DID READ the article, didn’t you?


115 posted on 05/12/2010 1:29:31 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Gator113

Thank you.


116 posted on 05/12/2010 1:32:27 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: nolongerademocrat; justiceseeker93
Why do Jews seem to be afraid of fundamentalist Christians? There is a history that justifies that fear and there is a present that is just a hair’s breadth away from it every single day of our lives. Think about that the next time you make accusations about Jews!

You just dismissed criticism of Jews by pointing out that "there are whack jobs in every group" and then you turn around and say that Jewish fear of American Fundamentalist Protestants is "justified?" Physician, heal thyself!

For most of chr*stian history, Fundamentalist Protestantism did not exist (ask any Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox chr*stian; they'll be happy to explain it to you). For roughly 1700 years every pogrom, every massacre, every outrage perpetrated by chr*stians against Jews was perpetrated by NON-Fundamentalist chr*stians. Again, any EO or RC will happily explain how alienated Protestant Fundamentalism is from true historical chr*stianity.

You're tired of people who use Jews as scapegoats? Well guess what--I'm sick and tired of people who use a religion that didn't even exist as a scapegoat for atrocities committed before it even existed.

Are there anti-Semitic Fundamentalist chr*stians? You bet there are. But they are a miniscule percentage of "whack jobs." The vast majority of Fundamentalist Protestants have never even heard of Jeff Rense or Tex Marrs (mach shemam!). Are there really Jews out there who sincerely believe that this country is full of people whose reading of Genesis and Joshua has made them into monsters who are just rarin' to unleash a second Holocaust? That is not only prejudice, it is stupid prejudice.

Did you know that I used to be a Fundamentalist chr*stian? Do you honestly think I was attracted to Noachism because I was an ultra-modern sophisticate who disdained the Bible? I'm sorry. Not only to liberals not become Noachides, for the most part neither do non-Fundamentalist chr*stians.

The reason the vast majority of American Jews (who are liberal and non-Orthodox) are allergic to American Fundamentalist Protestants is that those Fundamentalist Protestants remind them that their own ancestors were rustic Theocratic warrior-shepherds with names like "Jedidiah," "Caleb," and "Jethro." Liberal Jews like to think that Jewish history consists of nothing but Nobel Physics Prizes and Weimar Republic intellectuals. What modern Jewish liberal isn't ashamed of Yehoshu`a Bin Nun and Likkud Ha'Aretz? It is for this reason that people like Abe Foxman actually try to make anti-Semites of Fundamentalist chr*stians, so they can tell themselves that their ancestors were as liberal as they themselves are.

I have lived my entire life among Fundamentalist chr*stians. My sister is a Southern Baptist and she has never so much as even tried to convert me (she's probably less uncomfortable with my being a Noachide than she was with my being Roman Catholic for six years!). The vast majority of American Fundamentalist Protestants are the nicest, most decent, and most pro-Jewish people you could ever hope to meet.

And by the way--they're probably the only segment of the American population that knows about Judaea!

117 posted on 05/12/2010 1:49:16 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (LeShim`on, Shelumi'el Ben Tzurishadday.)
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To: Nachum

WTF did they expect from him?


118 posted on 05/12/2010 1:50:27 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: ConservativeMind

It depends how well-informed the voter was and how tuned-in to the Internet for conservative news. Many did not realize what they were voting for.


119 posted on 05/12/2010 1:57:30 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: nolongerademocrat

Man, you’ve got some serious issues... whew...


120 posted on 05/12/2010 2:05:05 PM PDT by Kenton
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