Posted on 05/09/2010 7:15:22 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
Seriously, is there any hope for us at this point?
Just watched a little 6 year old that has been chagrined and punished with a weeklong detention by her grammar school because a friend gave her a green Jolly Rancher hard candy in the lunchroom, and a teacher caught her with it.
So let me get this straight. Nowadays, we are forced to expose our elementary graders to "Heather's Two Mommies", how to practce safe sex, the joys of pro-choice in eliminating pesky unwanted human life-- but heaven forbid they act as CHILDREN and break the all sacred GOVERNMENT nutrition law of having a piece of hard candy??
The look on the little girl's face..when Alison Camerata primly said: "Now school is about learning...What have you learned from this experience?" As if to impy this is the most outrageous infraction...a SHAMEFUL ACT.
The little girl with eyes downcast, quietly and dutifully answered "To never have candy in school".
Oh yes..an immortal sin! Hopefully the child can be redeemed through efficient action by the STATE.
Yes, the tender forming mind is being imprinted early on by the new rules of the BORG, raining down imperial judgement on this child, courtesy of the socialist/communst educational machine!
But let's rally round when she shows up for her gender reassignment post adolescence, courtesy of a complete fracturing of her innate identity by statist propaganda.
I am of the opinion that teachers should be armed with flame throwers. When someone like that acts up, or “acts out” in the current verbiage, the teacher should just melt them down. I guarantee, one or two meltdowns a year and no other problems in school, period.
The public schools, because they have to get down to the lowest denominator, are punishing any achiever. The time that has to be spent policing the unruly and upon those who are there only because they have to be there, takes away from time that is supposed to be spent on education. Over lay that with the liberal pressures for our supposed educator administrators, and you end up with what we have now, chaos.
This would be the last day my daughter ever set foot in a Public School.
You mean she still sets foot in a Government school?
That is the correct response.
The educrats would say, “But we were only trying to protect her and keep her safe.”
And the response then should be “That is the exact reason I am pulling her out of your school.”
She should go to jail. Them Jolly Ranchers’ll rip your teeth out.
The right answer. Thank you!
Were this my child the principal of this school would be eating his meals through a straw for the rest of his life.
If the school suspended my kid for something my child did wrong, there would be a whole lot more in consequences at home than at school. If they did this to my daughter over candy, we'd have nightly trips to the ice cream parlor to teach the proper lessons: (1) we need to follow school rules, no matter how silly, but (2) this punishment was so disproportionate that I don't want her learning the wrong lesson, and the ice cream is in celebration of tolerating an adult's mistake politely. I would inform the insane principal of that secondary consequence and explain that my child will follow school rules, even the insane ones, but I would prefer proportionate responses (from both sides) in the future.
One of my kid’s parents told me on Friday that her son may be getting a scholarship to an elite private school here in Dallas. I told her that if he gets the scholarship that she should do everything she can to ensure that he doesn’t waste that opportunity because as long as her kid is in public school he won’t be challenged. I gave her the analogy of the convoy ships in WWII in which the convoy had to go the speed of the slowest ship so that they all made it together. I could just see the light turning on in her eyes as she realized that her son would always be held back by kids who were either not as intelligent, or who were so disruptive that instruction had to be halted several times a day just to deal with their need for attention.
Are you going to follow the rules when the rulemakers come to take your gun or other property,and get quietly on the train to the ovens like the German Jews?
The trick is knowing what rules to break and when.
Blind obedience is not an American trait,nor even a survival trait.
Well, I’m going back into the system after 20 years out and having home educated my kids. Its going to be interesting.
You sound like a good and sensible teacher!
I caught part of that this morining.
Imagine if she’d been caught with heroin instead—she would have been awarded full victim status & provided with tax payer funded services.
The home schooling crowd has won me over & there is enough data in now to show that home schooled kids are well ahead of their peers academically & socially.
Starve the leviathan.
>”Are you going to follow the rules when the rulemakers come to take your gun”
Please, I’m trying to be realistic here. If you want to carry on an intelligent conversation/debate, then, lets chat. Otherwise, I’ll not play that silly little game of yours.
In hindsight, I would hope the principle would rethink a week long detention, as perhaps a couple days would have been more appropriate, BUT there are facts missing.
Had the child been caught with candy before?
How many times?
Was the child a discipline problem to begin with?
More questions need to be answered.
I can tell you this, when I was a kid in school, I got caught eating candy in class and got a swat on the butt from the principle. Then, I got a swat on the butt from my dad when I got home because I got a swat on the butt at school.
My father always told me, it wasnt up to me to decide which rules were worthy to obey and which werent. He said if I didnt like it, to go CHANGE THEM.
I believe he was a very wise man.
(P.S.) I also believe it didnt do me any harm, as I ended having a long and fulfilling career in law enforcement.
That is a pretty silly game,in my opinion.
The people who founded this nation tried to have the rules changed but eventually broke or ignored the rules.
I repeat,blind obedience is not a sign of intelligence.
PS I'm pretty sure you used personal discretion in deciding who and when to arrest and charge,or did you try to stop EVERY car going a mile over the speed limit?But every one of those drivers was breaking the rules!
http://www.khou.com/news/Candy-Gets-Third-Grader-A-Weeks-Detention-93033319.html
Brazos Elementary School
9814 Kibler St
Orchard, TX 77464
(979) 478-6610
E-mail Principal Jeanne Young: jyoung@brazosisd.net
Maybe a piece of hard candy can go there by mail?
Free Leighann Adair from detention,
Excellent point. Kids instinctively know when something is not fair. I remember when I told my oldest daughter that the principal at her Lutheran grade school had mentioned that group projects were common at the public high school. She literally lay back on her bed an sobbed! She was boiling mad. It turned out that she didn't encounter that many after all. Thank goodness!
>>You mean she still sets foot in a Government school?<<
Nope, I’m a homeschooler but we did our time in those schools.
Older one, a year and a half, younger one two months.
Never again.
>>Seems like I’m hearing from you that it’s OK to break some rules?<<
Nope, that’s not my stance at least.
I believe the punishment should befit the crime though.
The kid has a hard candy, make her write lines. Detentions actually punish the parents who have to arrange schedules and the like. And the parent had nothing to do with this.
I would have spoken to the principal about a better punishment. If I had no satisfaction there, I would pull my kid.
This is exactly what got me homeschooling. My daughter wouldn’t finish her work in class. The teacher the year before, pegged her as ADD and would work with her (not free time until her work was finished, keeping her against the back wall so no distractions behind her, insisting on quiet in the class, etc). The next teacher couldn’t be bothered and gave the kid detention. Mind you, my daughter still got her “free time” in class to play, but then stayed after to finish her work. I tried to work with the teacher, but I can’t control my kid when I’m not with her. My daughter began leaving ALL her work for detention time.
You have to do what works, not just punish for no results.
Wow, someone else finally said it. Amen.
Conservatives have to learn that running away is not the long-term answer. When someone says, "That's it, I'm homeschooling!" it means that only one kid out of hundreds - possibly thousands - is going to get a halfway decent education. The rest are going to continue to receive the curriculum the conservative homeschooler ran away from, except now it will be unopposed. Then everyone grows up and gets to vote. So now there are hundreds and thousands of votes against one homeschooled kid. Congratulations on your principles.
If you really want to shape generations, you have to stand and fight, and allow ALL kids to benefit. A one-family army here and there isn't going to make much difference.
Kind of blows the rotted idea of “I’m in charge of my body” routine, eh?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.