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Conservatives throwing away allies by ZOTting gay trolls.
Hillbuzz ^ | May 8 2010 | Hillbuzz

Posted on 05/08/2010 10:24:28 PM PDT by d55may

This is another instance of breaking the Fourth Wall, but we want to share something that happens consistently to us that we’re just incredibly puzzled by, since we don’t see how behavior like this helps in any way to remove the current president and his corrupt party from power.

That’s our goal, see, and it’s something we are putting everything we have into. We put everything we had into stopping Obama from becoming president from 2007-2008 because we knew what he would do to this country. We did everything we could to stop him in the primaries. We put aside all of our preconceptions and personal bad feelings for the Republican Party and started up Democrats for McCain efforts — in Chicago, of all places — to do all we could to stop him from winning the general election. Post-election, we’ve done everything we could to rally as many people out there as possible to thwart his insane plans as much as possible. We do this because we love this country and do not want to see it go backwards — or, worse, to fall into ruin like Greece or other failed European, South American, or African states, the way this president wants the United States to become “just one of 190 countries in the world”. We truly believe this man wants to abdicate America’s, and the West’s, supremacy in the world…which benefits only this country’s enemies, most especially the would-be Global Caliphate of Islam.

So, we’ve put everything on the line to do everything we can every day to defeat Democrats in the coming November elections, always with an eye on making sure Obama does not get a second term in 2012. The Democrat Party needs to be taken down, completely destroyed, with the Earth salted so that Leftists can never again have so much sway over our government.

To say we are pretty committed is an understatement. These efforts have cost us everything, but it’s all worth it if we can help in any way to foil Obama’s plans.

So, considering all of this, it’s head-scratchingly bizarre that we are routinely attacked not just by the Left (which has reason to attack us), but the Right as well.

We’ve told you this before, about threads we read on Redstate and Ace of Spades, where moderators allow anti-gay comments to flourish — and there’s a decision made behind the scenes, clearly, to allow homophobia to run rampant on sites such as these which have a policy of banning people who bring up Birtherism or Trutherism and other things Redstate and Ace have decided they do not want to be associated with. So, when comments that are anti-gay are allowed to stand, while others are purposefully removed because they embarrass those sites, we have no other conclusion to draw other than Redstate and Ace believe homophobia is hilariously funny and something they want to embrace with relish.

It’s the same garbage over at Free Republic as well. Check out this thread, where someone posted a link to the Ann Coulter piece we did a few days ago.

It is almost instantly filled up with the most sophomoric, vile anti-gay jokes and sentiment imaginable.

Thankfully, some commenters scolded those responsible, but there really is a sickness amongst some people who call themselves both “religious” and “conservative”, who enjoy posting pictures with a “fudge-packing” theme.

We’d like to address this for a minute, while also giving some pushback to the apocryphal meme on the Right that enjoys attacking PUMAs and paradoxically blaming us for a McCain defeat in 2008 (when more Democrats voted for McCain than voted for Reagan in 1980…meanwhile, 6 million Republicans sat their sorry butts home because McCain was not “Reagan” enough for them, so they allowed what they claimed would be “Carter II” to become president, insisting he wouldn’t “be that bad”. Jackasses).

First of all, if you, in the year 2010, are making fudge-packing jokes, there’s a 99% chance you are gay yourself and either won’t admit it, are terrified of someone figuring you out, or you are too stupid or too much of an alcoholic to accept your own reality.

Those jokes aren’t funny, guys. Maybe they were before the advent of the internet, television, or even the radio. Maybe they were funny before people could read and write. Heck, there are people out there who think Carrot Top and Cedric the Entertainer are funny, so it’s true there is no accounting for taste. But, posting a picture of a fudge-factory to randomly take a swipe at gay guys — WHO ARE ON YOUR SIDE — is just so pointless and counterproductive.

Just how gay are YOU that you need to seize every possible opportunity to take a smack against someone else who’s gay?

Because we picture you sneaking into your mother’s basement, where you still live, at 42, and gingerly pulling back the old plaid blanket you use as a room divider. You creep behind the curtain and carefully unstack piles of Sports Illustrateds and Playboys you use as camouflage, to reveal hidden plastic milk crates full of all your treasures: the complete collected works of Barbara Streisand on mint-condition vinyl, vintage muscle posing strap catalogs from the 50s, your Charlie Crist for Senate campaign memorabilia, and an admittedly impressive collection of My Little Ponies. You won’t admit to your mother or anyone else that you are secretly gay, and you think nobody on Earth knows about your secret stash. You honestly believe no one suspects the reason you don’t have a girlfriend is that you “just haven’t met the right one yet”, and you think people really buy “it’s the economy, and I’m just saving up for a downpayment on a place” as the reason you still live with your mother. At 42. In her basement. While playing with dolls.

So, of course, to deflect attention off yourself, you seize every opportunity available to you to “rag on dem fags”. Hence, your fudge-packing photos.

What a clear sign of projection.

Which also ties into the weird attacks on PUMAs that still turn up on sites like Free Republic.

John McCain would be president today if 6 million Republicans hadn’t sat their sorry butts home on Election Day 2008, “to teach the GOP a lesson”. It’s as simple as that, folks. He lost states by the slimmest of margins because Republicans did not give him the support they gave to George W. Bush in 2004. Meanwhile, more Democrats crossed the aisle and voted for McCain/Palin than ever before in history. There were more Democrats for McCain/Palin than there were Reagan Democrats in 1980. We at HillBuzz are not anomalous. In every state where we have friends and family, people who voted Democrat blindly their entire lives pulled the lever for McCain/Palin and thus cast a Republican ballot for the first time ever. It was an immense culture shock to do so — like an all expenses paid sojourn to BizarroWorld in many cases, but we did it.

George Soros and the others behind the September financial meltdown gave Obama a lock on the election — when coupled with those 6 million conservatives who sat on the couches, in their diapers, and refused to vote for McCain. That is established fact.

Obama did not win, as the MSM loves to insist, because of an overwhelming surge of black, college-age, and first time immigrant voters that will guarantee Democrats a permanent majority forever. That is Orwellian propaganda from the Ministry of Truth, aka, our agenda-driven national media. Obama won because conservatives let him win. Conservatives dropped the ball and sat their sorry butts home.

You can continue to bizarrely attack Democrats who crossed the aisle to vote for McCain all you want, but you look insane doing it. Your argument is untenable and ridiculous, and goes something like: ”It’s all those PUMAs fault. There weren’t enough of them to make up for the 6 million conservatives who didn’t vote, so I hate PUMAs and gays are all fudge-packers and uh, Ma, I’m on the Internet, leave me alone, NO! I don’t want any more Fruit Roll-Ups. GEEEEESH!”.

You are a closeted gay male who is self-hated, so you project this by posting “fudge-packing” photos attacking gays.

You are a loser conservative who sat his ass home in 2008 “to teach the GOP a lesson” and now realize how mentally ill you were, so you project the contempt you feel for your self and your incredibly poor decisions on Democrats like us who did everything we could — at immense persona cost — to stop Obama from becoming president and destroying this country.

What did you do in the 2008 campaign to help Republicans win? We bet you sat your ass on the couch, or maybe you spent your time on message boards telling other conservatives they should stay home on election day “to teach the GOP a lesson”. That’s been your ridiculous, pathetic little mantra for umpteen years now. And yet, you have no idea how intensely foolish you are…because the DNC is what’s always been encouraging that garbage. It only helps the Left to think that way, or to do off on one of your insane third-party Libertarian jags. ”Keep it up”, the DNC cheers, “this is how we keep winning elections when only 20% of the country is Liberal, but damn near 60% of the conservative base is foolish enough to fall for this amateur hour garbage!”.

We’d like to see a day when Redstate, Ace of Spade, Free Republic, and other conservative sites wise up and start policing their comments and content for anti-gay attacks, the same as they moderate for racist jabs. We’re 100% positive posters would be banned for making racial jokes, using the “n-word”, and posting images relating to anti-black stereotypes. The fudge-packing tripe was acceptable to sites like this, but we’re sure pictures of watermelon eating contests or lynchings would be verboten. As they should be.

The real irony in all of this is just how much damage conservatives do to themselves by attacking gays — and they don’t even realize it.

Lesbians, in particular, are naturally conservative, but the Right doesn’t realize this. Ever go shopping with a lesbian? It’s an all-day, sometimes all-week process, to find the best deal on something. Lesbians will drive hours out of their way to save $10 on something, if they calculate the gas mileage and wear on the car comes out to $7.00 or less for the trip, if they net a $1.50 savings at least on that item, they are buying it clear across town. They are like this with everything. It’s amazing. They honestly should be Republicans — every last one of them, from Ellen down to Rosie with every lesbian in between. Republicans one and all.

The reason they aren’t Republicans is because they don’t feel welcome in the GOP, because of the very loud and vocal anti-gay contingent, particularly those that call themselves “religious”. So, women who should be voting their economic best interests…who should not be paying enormous taxes as property owners to fund the graft and corruption that benefits only the black community and other Democrat pet voting blocs (because, face it, the DNC does not send any money to lesbians, and does not fund any largesse in the LGBTQ community…which is an island left to fend for itself at all times)…consistently vote Democrat because they don’t really have another option.

People making those fudge-packing, anti-gay remarks take that option away from them.

The same is true for gay men, but they are not as sensible and financially savvy as lesbians. Gay men don’t care what happens to their money, by and large, and often spend their entire paychecks the weekend of pay day. We wish that wasn’t true, but it is. So, before they can vote in their economic best interests they need a better handle on economics in general. What keeps them voting Democrat is the fact that Redstate, Ace of Spades, Free Republic, and other sites keep reinforcing all the boogeyman stereotypes the Left puts out about Republicans. 99% of gay men believe everything they hear Anderson Cooper or Keith Olbermann say on TV. ”Republicans are evil, Brenden, I heard it from some guy who saw it on TV.” ”Oh, I know, Brenden #2, they are so evil. I heard from someone who said he was told by the guy at the Starbucks, you know, the really cute one, that those religious people hate us and make those fudge-packer jokes, and so I just hate them back and anyone who is gay that votes Republican is a Jewish Nazi”. ”Oh, Brenden, that’s totally deep.” ”I know, right, Coop said it the other day, and he’s just totally dreamy”.

We wish we were kidding. That’s practically an actual conversation in Boystown.

Gay men don’t stop to think about how much voting Republican would benefit them, because the Left has effectively prevented them from ever considering the option by promoting the meme that gay men voting GOP are “Jewish Nazis”…and are only giving support to the ignorant, bigoted, loudmouth, “religious” idiots like those posting that fudge-packing photo.

So, every time a conservative lets one of these people get away with that garbage — and every time Redstate, Ace, or Free Republic allows a photo like that to be displayed and an attitude like that to stand — you are only helping the Left.

We could write 25,000 more words on the subject, and we still won’t be able to come up with any way to get that to sink in for those of you out there who are either too stupid or too blind to realize this — BUT YOU ARE CONSISTENTLY ALIENATING NATURAL ALLIES WHEN YOU ALLOW HOMOPHOBIA TO STAND UNCHALLENGED IN CONSERVATIVE RANKS.

2008 proved, definitively, that a few votes here and there make all the difference in the world.

We all know nothing will ever magically increase the intelligence of conservative voters who choose to sit home and let someone like Obama win, because they want “to teach the GOP a lesson”. These people have serious mental problems if they really believe that’s what they are accomplishing. You might as well just consider those fools to be Democrat votes all along.

BUT, we truly believe in 10-15 years a sizable portion of the LGBTQ vote could indeed be going to the GOP — if only these ignorant bigots would stop handing these votes to the Left by encouraging and promoting the stereotypical hate the Left uses to paint conservatives as boogeymen.

There is truly no reason on Earth for a conservative to ever attack us here at HillBuzz.

If your goal is to stop Obama, then we are on your side.

If your goal is to defeat every Democrat in office currently, then we are on your side.

If your goal is to see Sarah Palin in the White House, then we are on your side.

If you’re one of those khaki pants and blue blazer little Romney punks, then we’re kind of your worst nightmare because we’re going to make sure he, Tim Pawlenty, Mitch Daniels, and other cucumbers-and-mayonnaise bland losers do NOT get the GOP nomination.

But, if you’re a firebrand, take-no-prisoners, in-your-face, boot-the-socialists-from-office conservative, then we hope you have sense enough to accept an ally that’s not only ready and willing to fight to the end — but who is battle-tested, field-trained, and runs a daily operation with readership in the tens of thousands and is laser-focused on defeating the absolute worst president this nation has ever had.

Attacking us is counter productive.

We understand the hits we take from the Left on a daily basis — clearly, we are effective on some level, or they would just leave us alone and ignore us. The fact we’re such a high target for them must mean we’re doing something right.

So, it makes no sense for the Right to take punches at us too.

We really wish those of you out there who frequent Redstate, Ace, and Free Republic would put a stop to that garbage. Trolls can indeed be banned. They should be banned.

If your goal is to win in 2010 and in 2012, we just can’t see the logic in alienating any allies…and, longterm, we just don’t understand why you want to keep throwing away the LGBTQ vote when the only thing you have to do to start winning it is to just stop the sophomoric hate and insipid anti-gay jokes.

That’s it.

Cut that crap out, initiate zero tolerance policies towards it, and win more elections.

It is that simple, folks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attacksongays; conservative; homosexualagenda; whiningliberals; zot
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To: Grizzled Bear

Too fast. We never get to have any fun with the trolls any more.


141 posted on 05/09/2010 10:58:43 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: so_real

Good points. I just am so livid (at times) and in a rage about half the time over the election. It’s probably because I cannot understand how anyone couldn’t see this coming. And I never will understand the people that sat out...Yes McCain is a liberal Repubic and I detest him; never have I liked the pos (even sent him an email some years ago telling him to join the Democrats and get the hell out of the Republican party.) But I do not believe for one second that we would be under tyranny and make no mistake, that is what we are under now.

With that said, I’m glad we agree on most issues...but to say that the result was good in that now there is the tea party and people are awake, well, I don’t share in that glee. Each day that passes more of our future is being wrecked and these communists become more entrenched. So much so that we may not even see an election in November. So while people have been awaken, it may be only for witnessing the end.


142 posted on 05/09/2010 11:07:23 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: NYCslicker

You may not think you are supporting the lifestyle but if you equate gays and their practices with blacks in any way, it is as if you are shouting obscenities about blacks.

Since no one is keeping them from voting, if that is what you believe conservatives are doing, I can understand your confused thinking.

Conservatives will continue to think that homosexuality is a mental disease and that gay practices are degenerate, vile, deviant, filthy and disgusting. That is not going to change. We may make fun of their filthy practices - ie. fudge packing, but we are not making fun of the people who happen to have those tendencies but don’t practice the filth.

Now, why should conservatives give up their principles on the possibility they may pick up one or two votes? Is there any reality of obtaining votes or it is just another attempt to silence conservatives? If the gays want to follow conservative principles fine. But they should not just give it lip service. That means conservative gays need to understand why what gays practice is so wrong and how even tacit acceptance of those practices is dangerous. Which means those gays need to learn to listen to what conservatives are saying without the knee jerk attempts to stifle their speech.


143 posted on 05/09/2010 12:14:21 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: wardaddy; little jeremiah
The Clown P-ssies actually did an entire thread dedicated to a comment I made (regarding crime and welfare levels amongst ethnic/racial groups) and accused me of being a closet Klansman. Frankly, I was flattered, as they thought enough of me to dedicate an ENTIRE THREAD to yours truly!

Basically, a bunch of smug Metro douchebags (mostly female) who are homophiles, yet still get their panties in a wad (justifiably) regarding illegal aliens. Its FR for the Sluts in the City crowd essentially.

144 posted on 05/09/2010 12:16:36 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: NYCslicker
Nice attempt at strawman.

I don't view it as a race issue, I view it as a cultural issue. If said "black person" is at a tea party then I assume we are of the same cultural beliefs.
145 posted on 05/09/2010 12:29:01 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Clemenza

Are they still in existence?

So they hated you too. Heheh.


146 posted on 05/09/2010 12:47:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: NYCslicker
With all due respect, not only do you have a limited understanding of liberty and of history, but, also, of religion (scriptures) and American representative (republican) government..............

You have been talking in circles on this thread.........you are probably a nice person, but, you need to hit the books........

:}

147 posted on 05/09/2010 1:12:40 PM PDT by AwesomePossum
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To: d55may

homophobia
yet another homo troll.

look you and the left are so dumb you use words that you d mot even know what they mena.

phobic means ot live in fear, to be afraid, if you and the other lefty homo trolls had a brain you would understand that no one here lives in fear of homos nor do the think they’re scared of them.

here’s the plain truth for you and your other homosexuals trolls.
it is sick, it is not natural, it is disgusting.
How ever what you want to do in your bedroom is up to you but the monet you come out and say your sick agenda should be accepted, once you push your agenda in the shcool,s once you go out in public making a fool of your self and get into peoples faces then there is a problem and that is(read this)
you become a problem and we as the majority will fight you on all fronts to stop you, to tell you to get you to understand we do not appreciate your mental perverted sickness .
Yes there is some, a few who have no problem with you, they are usually from up north and know a homosexual but of course they are just as stupid as you as they have not actually thought about what you do and what your agenda is. They have not thought of how you push your agenda, a sick one at that into kids etc

Now don’t come on here or any other conservative website and say you’re a conservative, YOU ARE NOT if you want this agenda.
We also stand for a traditional family and a traditional marriage.
don’t like it then tough


148 posted on 05/09/2010 1:28:59 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: little jeremiah

these homosexuals trolls still keep trying to divide us.

this is plain and simple

we conservatives stand for a traditional marriage, a traditional family .
Stop pushing your agenda, stop trying to get kids to accept you, stop trying to teach your perverted sickness in the schools.

JR has made it simple for all conservatives on here,
we do not accept the homosexuals agenda and if you do then piss off as you’re not a conservative


149 posted on 05/09/2010 1:32:46 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: little jeremiah

what is this place?


150 posted on 05/09/2010 1:33:11 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: LibertyRocks

“So, it is your opinion that only God-fearing people can be conservatives?”

I said no such thing. It is my opinion that a man who sleeps with other men is not, and never will be a conservative. A woman who sleeps with other women is not and never will be a conservative.

These people sooner or later demand that society not only tolerate but accept, condone and protect their chosen lifestyle and there is NOTHING conservative about that.


151 posted on 05/09/2010 1:40:50 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: NYCslicker

homo agenda and liberty

oh please, you sound like a homo lover, I bet you live up in NY and you have friends are homo’s right?

the day they took their sexual life public is the day many got pissed off with them and of course your homo friends will act one way in front of you but another when you’re not around.

go to places like folsom fair and see them then come back and say they have liberty

I can’t even believe you put the homosexuals in the same line as ;lliberty

do you also support the homosexuals adoptions and marriage?


152 posted on 05/09/2010 1:42:31 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: NYCslicker

and homo many homosexuals vote conservative, as if you’re a conservative you cannot be for the homo agenda or on here as JR has made it quite clear this is not a place to push the homo agenda and he has banned quite a few in the last few weeks


153 posted on 05/09/2010 1:44:06 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc

At this point I don’t think anyone is not aware about what the homosexual agenda has done, is doing, and plans to do. Well, maybe some grannies who don’t have internet, or a few who hide their heads in the sand. But anyone posting on FR knows what it is, and they either abhor it or like it. The few who pretend it doesn’t exist or doesn’t affect anyone are just enablers. Silent assistants.

It is meant for our ruination, and homosexual spokesholes have said as much. They mean it, they want the entire world to be a “gay”-friendly bath house where everyone who disagrees with them is silenced and court ordered into submission. That is exactly what they want. Total dominance. They are seriously mentally ill but the thing is, they can choose to not be, if they want. The road out isn’t easy, but is possible.


154 posted on 05/09/2010 1:46:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: little jeremiah

agreed .


155 posted on 05/09/2010 1:47:17 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Waryone

Ok. Do what you want.


156 posted on 05/09/2010 1:49:56 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: randomhero97

Ok. It’s your choice.


157 posted on 05/09/2010 1:50:56 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: AwesomePossum

That’s fine. If you want to attack my knowledge, go ahead. I’m not here to prove things to you.

As for debating this issue, as I’ve posted, I’m kind of loosing interest.


158 posted on 05/09/2010 1:52:12 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: TheOldLady

WoW! I didn't know there was a R A I N B O W Zot!

159 posted on 05/09/2010 1:52:33 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: NYCslicker

Rather, “losing the argument”.


160 posted on 05/09/2010 1:53:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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