Posted on 05/07/2010 6:25:33 AM PDT by Mozilla
Former Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin's endorsement of Carly Fiorina in California's Senate race has prompted a fervent blowback on her Facebook page, long Palin's safe haven for delivering her message.
The revolt is coming from Palin supporters who also back Chuck DeVore a tea party favorite who is campaigning against Fiorina in the Republican primary.
Palins Facebook page is littered with comments opposing her endorsement of Fiorina, the former CEO of Hewlett Packard.
The only REAL CONSERVATIVE is Chuck DeVore. Fiorina is a RINO and we don't need any more of those in [California], one irate commenter wrote. Why wouldn't you back Chuck DeVore???
The impassioned revolt from some of her most faithful supporters prompted Palin to update her post to add a few things about my Carly endorsement because some reaction right out of the chute calls for more information.
In her original post, Palin made no mention of Fiorinas social views, but in the update Palin touted the former CEOs opposition to abortion rights.
Carly has been endorsed by the National Right to Life, the California Pro-Life Council, and the Susan B. Anthony List, Palin wrote of Fiorina. She is pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-military, and pro-strict border security and against amnesty.
Carly is also a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, she added. Like me, she is a member of the NRA, has a 100% NRA rating, and she and her husband are gun owners. She is pro-energy development and believes as I do in an all-of-the-above approach to energy independence. She is against cap and tax. And most importantly, Carly is the only conservative in the race who can beat Barbara Boxer.
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Some of the best things out there. Read the “comments” section:
“What am I missing here?”
Nothing. Palin’s pledge to elect “true conservatives” was a lie.
She’s just a politician, she is not a messiah and those that set her up as so are not doing conservatism any good.
Holdher feet to the fire, just like we would do with any other politician.
True, but this is being overblown as it relates to FB, from what I’ve been seeing.
The beauty of the system is You vote for who You want and are not forced to vote for someone who others favor. An endorsement is not a mandate.
That’s not true....
did support DeDe in NY 23?
Crist in FL?
She even knew something was up about Rubio -Mitt’s Boy while everybody here at FR was wondering why she didn’t endorse him.
Grayson in Kentucky? he is a Mitch McConnell guy and Sarah said while she doesn’t agree with everything of Rand Paul she supports his fiscal issues especially the 10th amendment....
Mark Kirk in IL was begging Sarah to endorse him she didn’t....now we know he is a RINO to the level of Arlen Specter
Ally for what?
Talk show side-kick?
If she’s positioning herself for a presidential election; she’s being more successful at obscurity.
Ask the rest of America and not just the Palin cheerleaders inside the bubble of conservative forums.
I’d like to see her do more to establish herself for executive office (to the “undecided” voters) but she’s not. Palin appears to be more poised as a celebrity in the GOP than a viable, serious candidate.
So far, she is developing the credibility to be the next Colin Powell. Maybe she can appear on Meet The Depressed as an expert for Alaskan affairs, as needed.
“Politics is the Art of the Possible. She can endorse anyone she wants, and not endorse someone who is guaranteed to lose.”
She could have also stayed out of this and AZ. She seems really tied down to McCain’s camp. That’s too bad. I think Devore’s only a couple points behind Fiorina v. Boxer - so among RVs he’s doing alright.
Update: Id like to add a few things about my Carly endorsement because some reaction right out of the chute calls for more information:
Carly has been endorsed by the National Right to Life, the California Pro-Life Council, and the Susan B. Anthony List. She is pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-military, and pro-strict border security and against amnesty. She is against Obamacare and will vote to repeal it and prevent the government takeover of private companies and industries. Carly is also a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. Like me, she is a member of the NRA, has a 100% NRA rating, and she and her husband are gun owners. She is pro-energy development and believes as I do in an all-of-the-above approach to energy independence. She is against cap and tax. And most importantly, Carly is the only conservative in the race who can beat Barbara Boxer. Thats no RINO. Thats a winner.
Lets start with what would you she suggest she do?
She could stay out of the primary, or she could endorse one of three candiadtes.
The current RealClearPolitics average for the primary in one month is:
Cambell:29%
Fiorina:23%
DeVore:10.8%
1) She does not endorse anyone. Result is likely to be a Campbell win. Fiorina must have asked Palin for the endorsement because her campaign team are worried.
2) She endorses DeVore. Devore has had 8mths with a lot of support yet he is nowhere. 10%! Why? He can’t sell himself, partly because he is poor candidate. He could not possibly make up the deficit with either Campbell or Fiorina in 1 month. He and Fiorina are splitting votes.
3) She endorses Campbell? He is pro abortion, sqishy second amendment, pro gay marriage, anti offshore drilling, VERY anti Israel. So maybe not.
4) She endorses Fiorina. Fiorina may not beat Boxer but she has as good a chance as Campbell.
So what advice would you give Palin?
You’re right about the “handlers”. It goes beyond endorsements (although McCain was a mistake).
I don’t believe the public opinion is very high in regards to the executive office. Palin needs to re-establish herself as a serious candidate and not a soccer\hockey mom or a lightweight. Much of America holds that opinion of her.
“Shes just a politician, she is not a messiah and those that set her up as so are not doing conservatism any good.
Holdher feet to the fire, just like we would do with any other politician.”
I agree with this - and I like Sarah Palin. What we need in this country is accountability. That is going to be painful and something the RATS have completely sidelined, as they are actually massively corrupt and have huge cover from their propagandist press corps.
But disciplined, accountability is what this country NEEDS. And no sector needs it more than our national politicians.
The Tea Party movement is bigger than any one person - bigger than Sarah Palin. The RAT press hates that, of course.
While I’m no huge fan or Carly I believe your assessment is a tad harsh. True she got fired from HP but it had to do with the political enemies she made within the company. At the time, the HP/Compaq merger was troubled *but* in the end the merger turned out positive for the company and the market.
Carly’s problem at HP was that she didn’t focus on the core competency of HP, building computers. Under her the quality of HP consumer computers went downhill as manufacturing was moved overseas with lax QC. Also, she stretched the company into markets traditionally HP has never been in, Tv’s/digital cameras/HP branded iPod’s/etc.
To say that Carly’s leadership caused or started HP’s downsizing due to her squandering corporate profits is simply unfair. HP, like most high-tech companies expanded (bloated) during the .com times so when bad times hit in 2001 that bloat weighed the company down. In the years after Carly, Mark Herd has cut far more people and trimmed benefits/pay more than Carly ever had dreamed. If Carly could turn in the market numbers that Herd does now she would still be CEO.
Again, I have no love for Carly but I do understand Palin’s position here and I agree with it. This is Kalifornia and the target is Babs Boxer and no matter how conservative Devore is, he simply has no shot against Babs. Hell, if you cloned a younger Ronald Reagan he couldn’t beat Boxer in Kalifornia today. This is the deepest of blue states that will take YEARS of reforms and a hell of a lot of pain before a true conservative could win the state. From a financial standpoint Carly is as strong a conservative as you’re going to get. She has name recognition, is very media-savvy and a ton of money to bring into battle.
I think we as conservatives need to be realistic in our outlook here. Our country has not fallen to the current level overnight and it won’t turn-around over night. I know some think that conservatives win everywhere when they espouse the right message but honestly it takes more than that.
Because the mob mentality on FR says she is!
In our RINO witch hunts, all it takes is the accusation. Evidence is for the spineless.
Pffft.
I don't like what she did to Hewlett-Packard as CEO, but that has little to do with this campaign. For comparison, remember that Ronald Reagan wasn't that great of an actor. Talent (or lack thereof) in one area doesn't necessarily mean anything in another.
I have seen ZERO consequential evidence so far that Carly Fiorina is a RINO. For crying out loud, the woman hasn't even held office yet, so how could you predict her voting patterns as a legislator? That's what actually matters in the Senate, in case any of you have forgotten.
Hodar makes a (bad?) business decision sound like it was personal and vindictive.
It WAS a bad decision. When John Young messed up, Dave and Bill did a walkaround and then fired Young. They’d have the same to CF had they been alive at the time.
She almost ran that company into the ground. Quality was atrocious under her leadership, innovation was non-existent, and morale was in the crapper. Despite Hurd (spelled with a ‘u’) getting some of ‘the cycle’ benefits, he also improved everything about the company.
I agree about it being Kalifornia and people needing to be realistic, but I still don’t like her. “Better than Boxer” is about all I can say and if I still lived there, I’d pinch my nose and vote for Carly.
Odd that no one has ever heard of these endorsements.
>>I don’t like what she did to Hewlett-Packard as CEO, but that has little to do with this campaign ... the woman hasn’t even held office yet.
Her credentials are tightly coupled to her being a former CEO of a Fortune 500 company. How is that not important? As you mention she has never held office, so what else besides her business track record do we have to go on?
I agree the RINO label might be premature, but she was a campaign adviser for chief RINO McCain.
That’s a good reason not to elect her.
Move to California ! and run
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