Posted on 05/03/2010 6:22:25 AM PDT by Need4Truth
A major storm of protest against the myth of evolution has been building for many years, as proved by almost a thousand major scientists, all with doctorates who have signed on to the following statement as of 2010: “We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”
Those scientists threw down the gauntlet to evolutionists by publishing a two-page ad in a national magazine with the heading, “A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism.” Fevered, fanatical, and foolish evolutionists will charge that those dissenting scientists were backwoods yokels (maybe even a few snake handlers and flat earthers mixed in) dug up by pushy creationists to promote their cause. Not so, I have gone over the list and if certification and accreditation are so important, impressive, and indispensable, then those people will give evolutionists a perpetual heartburn.
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Now don't you feel silly? You sure should. No known mechanism, unknown to YOU.
And I do not depend upon grants silly person. I am employed as a scientist in a private industry, the kind that hires actual scientists, not creationist know nothings.
Once again evolution has a productive answer at the ready for why a bacterial population would experience increased survival under stress with a higher mutation rate.
Creationism has nothing, produces nothing, knows nothing.
Actually AGW and ID are both fraudulent ideas that are based on knuckheaded religious nuts. Kind of sickening how you both want to push your agenda on kids in school when the evidence is heavily weighed against both these ideas.
Evolution on the other hand has some pretty good evidence (ie. the Fossil Record).
Actually there is evidence we are connected. Identical structures, Identical DNA sequences for some. Identical DNA sequences in Humans and Chimpanzees, put there at the same time and place by retrovirus infection.
Ah, a bigfoot believer. Well, if you don’t need evidence, and you ignore evidence, you can believe anything.
Didn’t you know?
LOL!
I have been to the “Creationist Museum” by the Morongo Indian reservation, and they also assert that St. George didn’t kill a dragon, but rather, a dinosaur.
They inherited that postion from the Jesuits.
“I accept the theory of evolution via mutation and selection ...”
Yes I see. When the religious to that it’s called “faith.”
I don’t do that.
Hank
” ...there are many similar sequences in DNA, emplaced by Retro viruses before our lines diverged... “
Are you sure it wasn’t the fairies at the bottom of the garden? Sorry, not buying your fairy tales either.
Hank
“Creationism has nothing, produces nothing, knows nothing.”
I absolutely agree. Why would you even bring it up? I’m not a theist. Or did you just make an assumption. That’s the whole basis of the “evolution” fairy tale, so I guess it would fit.
Genetics is real science. It would be the identical science without evolution, and it gets a little tiresome when evolutionists point to something legitimate science discovers to make claims about their pseudo-science.
What I said was, “There is no known mechanism, biological or otherwise, by which any collections of organisms could choose to “increase” their mutation rate.”
So you think they are choosing this mutation rate? (Not sure a genetic function that is built in really ought to be called a “mutation,” but this is certainly not an example of the kind of mutation that is supposed to produce more complex species from less complex ones.
You are right though. I do feel a little silly wasting my time discussing religion with the true believers.
Hank
What you said was that there was no known mechanism for a bacteria to increase its mutation rate. It is a genetic function that increases the mutation rate, it is not itself a mutation.
So why would a population of bacteria have increased survivability under stress by using an error prone DNA polymerase that introduces new mutations into its genome?
You evidently ARE wasting your time as you seem unable to actually learn anything. If you were willing to learn you might actually gain some knowledge from this discussion about HOW a bacteria induces a higher mutation rate, and you might even deduce why that would increase its survival rate.
Not much hope of that, but as long as you are here, pull head from nether regions and you just might learn something.
But probably not.
“You evidently ARE wasting your time as you seem unable to actually learn anything.”
Well there you are. I guess you are wasting your time too, because you are just not going to get me to drink the Kool Aid. But I don’t mind if you do. Enjoy!
Hank
“Actually AGW and ID are both fraudulent ideas that are based on knuckheaded religious nuts” [excerpt]And yet, Darwinian Evolution came from an apostate theologian who failed med school.
“Kind of sickening how you both want to push your agenda on kids in school …” [excerpt]I'm not pushing for taxpayers to be forced to fund the teaching of something they disagree with, but I'm guessing that you are.
“Evolution on the other hand has some pretty good evidence (ie. the Fossil Record).” [excerpt]Sorry, thats speculative origins, not objectively verifiable science.
“They [the communists] inherited that postion from the Jesuits.”LOL! You're joking, right?
In fact, if you knew or understood this you wouldn't sound like such a fool insisting that there was no such mechanism.
When you ask for them to demonstrate their theory, however, such as what specific mutations in what order occurred for the ability to reason abstractly develop, they resort to hand-waving.
Oh, and calling us "creationists" as though believing in a creator is somehow unreasonable or bad.
LOL. The irony is that the one's who see themselves as hyper-rationalists are basically superstitious pagans in white coats.
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