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Europe must fight market 'attack': Portugal PM
eubusiness ^ | 4-30-2010 | eubusiness

Posted on 04/30/2010 10:50:10 AM PDT by mainsail that

Europe must fight market 'attack': Portugal PM

(LISBON) - Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Socrates on Friday urged the European Union to react against a market "attack" following downgrades in the credit ratings of Greece, Portugal and Spain this week.

"This attack is directed against the European project," Socrates said during a parliamentary debate. "This attack, without foundation, is targeting the euro as a whole and the sovereign debt of several countries," he added.

"Europe should take measures and go from words to actions," he said, stressing in particular the importance of ensuring that credit rating agencies are regulated in such a way as to make them more independent.

Socrates also said the government on May 27 would submit to parliament for debate a draft law allowing Portugal to aid Greece as part of a bailout by the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.

"This law will enable us to lend money to Greece so they are not the victims of speculators. This is how we will defend the European project," he said.

Portugal is considered by many investors to be the next weak link in the eurozone after Greece as it is also heavily indebted. Experts say, however, that Portugal's problems are far smaller than Greece's.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; germany; partyisover; portugal
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Not their fault as you can see...
1 posted on 04/30/2010 10:50:10 AM PDT by mainsail that
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To: mainsail that

The highlighting is mine


2 posted on 04/30/2010 10:50:44 AM PDT by mainsail that
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To: mainsail that

Jose Socrates is most inappropriately surnamed.


3 posted on 04/30/2010 10:51:35 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: mainsail that

Translation: We like Socialism and think that more of it is the solution to all our problems.


4 posted on 04/30/2010 10:51:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: mainsail that

Defend the “European Project?” Just exactly what project is that? Is that where the Germans produce the goods and the French produce the food while the rest of the continent sponges off them?

Sounds familiar; I know it as “the 0bama Project.”


5 posted on 04/30/2010 10:52:12 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: mainsail that
As you say, not one word of mending their (Greece's) spendthrift habits!

Where have all the adults gone in the modern world?

6 posted on 04/30/2010 10:54:00 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: mainsail that

Europe would do better to free themselves from the globalists and fight the Muslim attack.


7 posted on 04/30/2010 10:59:34 AM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: mainsail that

They spend more than they had for far too long as they tried to tax themselves to prosperity.

Nothing to do with speculators.


8 posted on 04/30/2010 11:02:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: ronnyquest

Europe is lost. The best of their kind were eliminated from the gene pool at Verdun, the Somme and Stalingrad.


9 posted on 04/30/2010 11:02:23 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: henkster

Defend the “European Project?” Just exactly what project is that?


Simple try to break US hegemony and replace it with EU one.
The Euro was aimed at this (at least it was a well known and wanted side effect when introduced).


10 posted on 04/30/2010 11:06:57 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: mainsail that

If reality doesn’t cooperate in supporting the fantasy then just regulate reality. This is a fantasy common to all leftists and to most politicians/”intellectuals”/media propagandists. If something happens that you don’t like or upsets the agenda just pass a new law or formulate a new regulation. That they have hundreds-of-thousands (at least) of laws and regulations on the books and reality persists in refusing to conform to the fantasy never seems to penetrate.


11 posted on 04/30/2010 11:11:39 AM PDT by scory
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To: henkster
"Europe is lost."

All too true, I'm afraid.

12 posted on 04/30/2010 11:15:37 AM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: henkster

Europe is lost.


Well i have to dissagree. Lost to what?
Europe is Europe. And the USA is the USA.
There are differences and some common grounds but
at the end “we” are two different continents.
Each with his very own problems.


13 posted on 04/30/2010 11:19:40 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321

Europe is lost as to themselves. Like “wandering through the woods blindfolded without a compass, randomly bumping into trees” lost.


14 posted on 04/30/2010 11:23:21 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: henkster

Well for example i live in europe (in one of the richer parts) and i don´t feel lost. There are many problems here, true but do i feel lost or it´s all over? well definitely not. If so i would dig out my US citizenship and leave but right now i like living here and have no intention to leave.
I guess the same could be said the other way around. Does the US has problems? Shure. Do you want to leave it because of that? i guess not.
greetings


15 posted on 04/30/2010 11:27:48 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321

The euro was a bad deal for the PIGS. Before the Euro they were stuck with inflation and lack of borrowing power when their govts overspent. Prices and wages were way below Germany and France..etc. With the Euro their govts got more borrowing capability in a currency that wasn’t inflating. They went on a spending spree and now they are paying for it. Most of the people in the PIGS resented and hated the Euro and rising prices that came with it. Only the govt people benefited with higher and higher salaries and retirement.


16 posted on 04/30/2010 11:36:19 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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Well i guess the Euro had 2 main goals when invented.
First to kill exchange rates for inner european trade
and second to rival the US dollar on global stage.
Both have been important from a european point of view.
Of course the Euro has some major drawbacks too.
It´s allways the same some will make profit because of that
and others will lose because of that.
It only depends on which “side” you are “located”.
The winner will like it the loser... (well i guess you know
the answer ;-)
But believe me a “Euro is not a Euro”.
It depends where you are located.
The living standarts really differ between countries
which are using the euro.
For example for me in personal. Yes i felt a serious rising in prices when they introduced the euro. But the
next thing i felt was that short after that i “earned” more
money for my same job. So at the end for me after one year i´t was the same. Different products definitely cost more
but on the other side i get “more” money.
So it´s the same like before.
my “job” will buy me the same “living standart” like it did bevore.


17 posted on 04/30/2010 11:50:14 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: mainsail that

So, how does one short the Euro?


18 posted on 04/30/2010 12:24:15 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: mainsail that

So far in this thread I don’t see anyone addressing the perceived problem stated in the article: the rating agencies. S&P et al. Were not these agencies the ones that gave Lehman and the others AAA ratings when in fact they were all but bankrupt? Who rates/controls the “raters”? Too hot a topic?


19 posted on 04/30/2010 1:22:17 PM PDT by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: Moltke
"So far in this thread I don’t see anyone addressing the perceived problem stated in the article: the rating agencies. S&P et"

Forget about the rating agencies: would you give Portugal and Greece your own pension money as a loan at 5% a year? No one is vouching for S & P but you have to be blind not to see where Greece, Portugal and probably Spain are heading:

"The red flags, unashamedly decorated with the hammer and sickle, that fluttered on the nearby headquarters of the local Portuguese communist party were a clue to the immense political battle awaiting prime minister José Sócrates as he tries to see off a Greek-style debt debacle.

The communists head a red-green coalition that governs this and a swath of large, battered industrial towns on the south bank of the Tagus, across from the capital Lisbon. "They are not real communists any more," said Da Silva, who spent five years in the jails of former dictator Salazar. "But they are all we've got."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/30/portugal-debt-crisis-workers-protests

20 posted on 04/30/2010 1:28:04 PM PDT by mainsail that
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