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1 posted on 04/30/2010 5:04:51 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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Uh, we already have one. Its called a social security card and a passport.


39 posted on 04/30/2010 5:34:08 AM PDT by rintense
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2005 Real ID act.

Getting a drivers license required an across town trip with $30 to the county records division where I had to get a state approved copy of my birth certificate. The copy i had didn't suit them.

The lad there put in my city of birth, year of birth, my mothers name, my fathers name and I walked out of the office with someone else's birth certificate. I did return the document as I needed the correct one to be allowed to drive on the roadways.

40 posted on 04/30/2010 5:34:18 AM PDT by listenhillary (Capitalism = billions raised from poverty, Socialism = billions reduced to starvation)
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Go to just about any big city flea market and you can find authentic looking forgeries of driver’s licences, social security cards and all kinds of other id. A nat id card would be just another addition to that industry. But I have noticed that birth certificate forgeries are rare. Otherwise the guy who plays president on tv wouldn’t be flapping a cartoonish COLB and paying millions of dollars to keep the real thing hidden. A good forgery would cost a lot less that what he is paying.


41 posted on 04/30/2010 5:37:42 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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Should be used as kindling for the capitol while we set up a new government with the old Constitution but with no Dems allowed to F’ it up again.


42 posted on 04/30/2010 5:39:18 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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Actually, a National ID Card is a good idea, but it is going to make the civil libertarians on thew left go crazy.


43 posted on 04/30/2010 5:49:26 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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44 posted on 04/30/2010 5:51:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (FYBO: Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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And so it begins.

Profile, fer crying out loud.

I feel bad for the legal Hispanics who will be caught in the middle, but we have to start somewhere.

If the illegal has committed no crime other than being an illegal, deport his butt back to where he came from.

If he has committed a crime, dump him on some penal colony rock far from the mainland and air lift in supplies on a monthly basis and let nature take its course.


46 posted on 04/30/2010 6:04:54 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Dims, huh?

Seems as if at least one Republican presidential candidate from last time around suggested the very same thing in the "debates."

You think Democrat rule is bad, wait 'till we get bipartisan "immigration reform." You'll want to emigrate yourself then.

But where to?

47 posted on 04/30/2010 6:06:24 AM PDT by logician2u
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I Am Not A Number


50 posted on 04/30/2010 6:15:10 AM PDT by logician2u
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Given the status of the Real Id Act, it is difficult to believe that anyone would support a national id. Many states are either stalling or rebelling against the Real Id Act. The Real Id Act involves some needed standardization to state driver licenses. The act does impose some mandates on states but the mandates are dwarfed by mandates imposed in other laws, especially new laws enacted by the rats.


52 posted on 04/30/2010 6:18:14 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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54 posted on 04/30/2010 6:19:54 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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If I didn’t have my ID card and took my kids out for ice cream, could I be harassed?


55 posted on 04/30/2010 6:24:21 AM PDT by kevao
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It’s only a matter of time. The government believes you are chattel that belong to them. They’ll be trying to mark us all once they think they can get away with it.


57 posted on 04/30/2010 6:32:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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The national ID program would be titled the Believe System, an acronym for Biometric Enrollment, Locally stored Information and Electronic Verification of Employment.

You notice how they purposefully thumb their noses at Christians.

59 posted on 04/30/2010 6:39:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure.
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1} And these are the people squawking about Arizona? Unbelievable!

2) And...It will absolutely be against the law to require this national ID to vote. ( Wa’na bet!)

60 posted on 04/30/2010 6:40:49 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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For once I agree with the ACLU.

“Creating a biometric national ID will not only be astronomically expensive, it will usher government into the very center of our lives. Every worker in America will need a government permission slip in order to work. And all of this will come with a new federal bureaucracy — one that combines the worst elements of the DMV and the TSA,”

What conservatives better wake up to is that E-Verify does basically the same thing. It creates a national database and the requirement that you get permission from the bureaucratic keepers of that data to work in America.

Giving up essential liberty to gain some small measure of security. Very small.

Giving up our liberty because our "leaders" wouldn't do their sworn duty.

68 posted on 04/30/2010 7:17:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in atheists.)
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F that. But the people of Florida are Nazis? LOL


69 posted on 04/30/2010 7:32:17 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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Of course, the ID can’t be used to defeat voting fraud or protect against illegal immigration. That would be “racist.”


71 posted on 04/30/2010 7:47:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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How about we demand that they be a requirement to vote.


72 posted on 04/30/2010 8:23:35 AM PDT by TexasBeth
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We already have national ID cards. How difficult would it be to add a photo or fingerprint option to it?


73 posted on 04/30/2010 8:29:39 AM PDT by Peanut Gallery (The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government.)
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