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Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card
The Hill ^ | April 30, 2010 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 04/30/2010 5:04:51 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

A plan by Senate Democratic leaders to reform the nation’s immigrations laws ran into strong opposition from civil liberties defenders before lawmakers even unveiled it Thursday.

Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure.

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To: Clintonfatigued

Go to just about any big city flea market and you can find authentic looking forgeries of driver’s licences, social security cards and all kinds of other id. A nat id card would be just another addition to that industry. But I have noticed that birth certificate forgeries are rare. Otherwise the guy who plays president on tv wouldn’t be flapping a cartoonish COLB and paying millions of dollars to keep the real thing hidden. A good forgery would cost a lot less that what he is paying.


41 posted on 04/30/2010 5:37:42 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Should be used as kindling for the capitol while we set up a new government with the old Constitution but with no Dems allowed to F’ it up again.


42 posted on 04/30/2010 5:39:18 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Actually, a National ID Card is a good idea, but it is going to make the civil libertarians on thew left go crazy.


43 posted on 04/30/2010 5:49:26 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Clintonfatigued

44 posted on 04/30/2010 5:51:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (FYBO: Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I agree with you if properly adminstered and properly used. If the National ID Card demonstrated legal citizenship and was required before voting or accessing government benefits (welfare, for example), I think it could solve a lot of problems. On the other hand, a tool in the hands of one man can be a weapon in the hands of another. What if the card were to be used for bank transactions, purchases, home sales, interstate travel, etc.?

It’s like wiretapping laws; if used properly, it is positive, if misused, it is disasterous.


45 posted on 04/30/2010 6:04:33 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

And so it begins.

Profile, fer crying out loud.

I feel bad for the legal Hispanics who will be caught in the middle, but we have to start somewhere.

If the illegal has committed no crime other than being an illegal, deport his butt back to where he came from.

If he has committed a crime, dump him on some penal colony rock far from the mainland and air lift in supplies on a monthly basis and let nature take its course.


46 posted on 04/30/2010 6:04:54 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Dims, huh?

Seems as if at least one Republican presidential candidate from last time around suggested the very same thing in the "debates."

You think Democrat rule is bad, wait 'till we get bipartisan "immigration reform." You'll want to emigrate yourself then.

But where to?

47 posted on 04/30/2010 6:06:24 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Actually, a National ID Card is a good idea, but it is going to make the civil libertarians on thew left go crazy.

Actually, there is no need whatsoever for a new National ID card.

Reasonable requirements for identity and citizenship before issuing drivers' licenses, plus reasonable security for Social Security cards, would solve the problem neatly.

48 posted on 04/30/2010 6:11:04 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: listenhillary; Clintonfatigued; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; ...

They’re all consumed with the oil spill. But I did find this that had no comments after it and followed the link.

The Chronicle of Higher Education. (couldn’t find it on the excerpts list)

http://chronicle.com/blogPost/Skipping-Class-Sensors-Are/23530/?sid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en

Students at Northern Arizona University who hope to skip large lecture courses may have more trouble doing so this fall: The university is installing an electronic system that measures student attendance.

The university is using $75,000 in federal stimulus money to install the system, which will detect the ID cards students are carrying as they enter large classrooms, The Arizona Republic reported on Tuesday. (The cards can be read by an electronic sensor.) Faculty members can choose to receive electronic attendance reports.


49 posted on 04/30/2010 6:13:08 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I Am Not A Number


50 posted on 04/30/2010 6:15:10 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: listenhillary

The biggest laugh is that they are just choking over the polls that show Americans overwhelmingly support Arizona’s immigration law. They just can’t handle that people don’t want what they have to offer.


51 posted on 04/30/2010 6:17:31 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Given the status of the Real Id Act, it is difficult to believe that anyone would support a national id. Many states are either stalling or rebelling against the Real Id Act. The Real Id Act involves some needed standardization to state driver licenses. The act does impose some mandates on states but the mandates are dwarfed by mandates imposed in other laws, especially new laws enacted by the rats.


52 posted on 04/30/2010 6:18:14 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: metmom

Will this track the liberal self deporting college students? The one’s who won’t really self deport from Arizona?


53 posted on 04/30/2010 6:19:17 AM PDT by listenhillary (Capitalism = billions raised from poverty, Socialism = billions reduced to starvation)
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54 posted on 04/30/2010 6:19:54 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If I didn’t have my ID card and took my kids out for ice cream, could I be harassed?


55 posted on 04/30/2010 6:24:21 AM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao

Only if you’re a citizen, citizen.

If you’re an illegal, they’ll likely leave you alone.


56 posted on 04/30/2010 6:26:23 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

It’s only a matter of time. The government believes you are chattel that belong to them. They’ll be trying to mark us all once they think they can get away with it.


57 posted on 04/30/2010 6:32:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Nervous Tick
I’m *such* a klutz when it comes to handling sensitive things like a biometric ID card.

First thing I do when I get a new drivers license is to make sure it goes through some strong EM fields.

58 posted on 04/30/2010 6:34:08 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The national ID program would be titled the Believe System, an acronym for Biometric Enrollment, Locally stored Information and Electronic Verification of Employment.

You notice how they purposefully thumb their noses at Christians.

59 posted on 04/30/2010 6:39:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure.
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1} And these are the people squawking about Arizona? Unbelievable!

2) And...It will absolutely be against the law to require this national ID to vote. ( Wa’na bet!)

60 posted on 04/30/2010 6:40:49 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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