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Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card
The Hill ^ | April 30, 2010 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 04/30/2010 5:04:51 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

A plan by Senate Democratic leaders to reform the nation’s immigrations laws ran into strong opposition from civil liberties defenders before lawmakers even unveiled it Thursday.

Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; amnesty; bigbrother; democratcorruption; democrats; donttreadonme; doublestandard; id; immigration; liberalfascism; lping; markofobama; markofthebeast; nationalidcard; nazism; obama; obamunism; papersplease; policestate; socialism
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Ve Vant to See you’re papers.”


121 posted on 05/02/2010 2:21:55 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hey DEMONcrats, why don’t you just propose putting “666” on everyones forehead or hand and get it over with. It must be so exciting to know that you are mentioned in biblical prophecy.


122 posted on 05/02/2010 2:40:07 PM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: Biggirl

State ID’s. If you want state services, (education, health care, welfare), or want to vote, produce a state ID. States do not provide information to the Federal government. I think that you have nailed it, ‘ggirl.


123 posted on 05/02/2010 3:00:49 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Biggirl

Liberals are the violent liars. We aren’t.


124 posted on 05/02/2010 3:03:19 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Draw Mohammad Day" - - May 20, 2010 - Draw for freedom - draw for your children's freedom.)
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To: silverleaf

Rush will surely have some fun with this tomorrow. This should be good. I hope they try it.


125 posted on 05/02/2010 3:46:27 PM PDT by Upstate NY Guy (Gen 15:16 The iniquity of the Amorite is not yet complete.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If they would require this to “VOTE”, then I could support that.


126 posted on 05/02/2010 3:47:39 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Gosh, that sounds like something that would help in the fight against illegal immigration, and, uh, oh, wait a second... Thanks Clintonfatigued.
127 posted on 05/02/2010 3:54:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: logician2u

“You think Democrat rule is bad, wait ‘till we get bipartisan “immigration reform.” You’ll want to emigrate yourself then.

But where to?”

I vote for Belize. They speak english and the weather is good.


128 posted on 05/02/2010 4:24:12 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (Being asked to produce I.D. is a burden that falls on everyone)
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To: elephant

They seriously underestimate the intelligence of their opposition. A National ID is NOT needed. Enforcing of the laws already on the books ARE. [And where were these Civil Liberties groups when Obamacare was passed — or the stimulus bill that allows them to keep track of your checking and savings accounts, as well as ATM deposits and withdrawals in REAL-TIME???]


129 posted on 05/02/2010 4:38:30 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: wita

Just went through that here in WI, too. BC, Marriage License, Social Security Card, and a utility bill in my name to prove my address... REALLY ticks me off in light of how many documents Obama is hiding.


130 posted on 05/02/2010 4:43:03 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: kevao

You could already if you are detained by police and don’t have valid ID on your person. Those laws have been on the books for forever — see vagrancy laws.


131 posted on 05/02/2010 4:46:06 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This proposal is a sign of desperation by the rats on immigration. The Real Id act was a reasonable proposal for national identification (standardization of state identification not a national id). It has been opposed on many fronts by some on the left and right. After 5 years, the Real Id Act looks doomed.

A national id (especially biometric) is a much larger undertaking. If enacted, the national id will never happen just as Real Id Act.


132 posted on 05/02/2010 5:09:21 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Clintonfatigued

LEt me geat this straight. Checking the papers of people being pulled over is facist if Arizona does it, but national ID for US citizens is not?


133 posted on 05/02/2010 5:32:05 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Revolting cat!

I’ll see that the Democrats put a stop to this immediately...

tell them we want it to have a photo and be a requirement to vote.


134 posted on 05/02/2010 5:33:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: worst-case scenario

First things first.

We CAN secure the borders.

Doing what AZ is doing, i.e. checking the status of people detained for relevant reasons. You know, the same reasons I have to provide ID for. Traffic stops, crimes, jobs, DL etc. A national ID is not needed for that. We just need to simply do it.

Require that employers verify legal status of new hirees. Which BTW, is done most of the time by law abiding employers.

If illegals have a lot more difficulty coming in, if they know they will get deported if caught doing anything illegal, including traffic violations, if they know they can’t get jobs. Well, there goes the illegal problem. A national ID isn’t needed to accomplish any of this.

Like most of the crap laws and regulations coming from the Dems (and Nanny Staters in DC), the purpose is to monitor and control the *legal and law abiding citizens*, not the criminals or illegals. Gun control being the perfect example.


135 posted on 05/02/2010 6:19:19 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17


136 posted on 05/02/2010 6:32:06 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wow - there is crime everywhere.

Solution: crack down on law abiding citizens!


137 posted on 05/02/2010 6:36:17 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Which of course no one would ever have to show in order to vote.

I refuse. It's bad enough that We The People give them the information we do on our tax forms, really should be ashamed of ourselves.
138 posted on 05/02/2010 7:00:04 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: silverleaf
your rationed carb credits to buy fuels from govt owned gas stations

...using the oil spill (ONOS!) as the Trojan Horse.

139 posted on 05/02/2010 9:13:34 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: Reagan69

This is gun control retread reasoning.


140 posted on 05/03/2010 1:53:36 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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