Posted on 04/29/2010 12:07:13 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
KNOXVILLE - Federal court jurors reported today they have reached a verdict on three of four charges against former University of Tennessee student David C. Kernell, accused of illegally accessing the private e-mail account of 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
But they also reported they are deadlocked on the first count, a charge of identity theft.
Without asking what their verdict is on the other counts, U.S. District Judge Thomas W. Phillips sent them back to the jury room to continue deliberating the first count.
In their written communication to the judge this afternoon, the jurors said: "Some of us feel not all jurors are following the jury instruction."
On its third morning of deliberations, the East Tennessee jury pondering charges against Kernell asked to review a federal law addressing identity theft. That's the count on which the jurors deadlocked.
After some discussion with lawyers, Phillips decided today to give them a copy of the law - with some sections blacked out that he said are irrelevant to the case.
Jurors then indicated they wished to go to lunch. The panel is expected to resume deliberations at 1 p.m. today.
(Excerpt) Read more at knoxnews.com ...
I am rooting for hard time with a continuing case of the piles.
I am rooting for hard time with a continuing case of the piles.
Yeah, I know, and considering the damage that it did to the campaign, as Sarah Palin said -- it would be appropriate.
But when I see other sentences given (in other completely different matters), they are not long sentences even when there is bodily harm and people are killed (which I would consider to be much more severe). In addition, I see drug convictions with very little done to the criminals. In order to rid this country of druggies, I think every person convicted of having drugs should have at least ten years in prison, minimum. Then the drug "dealers" themselves, should all have life in prison (and that would be anyone who sold the least little bit of an illegal drug).
So, when considering these other things, such as bodily harm and people being killed and druggies -- no..., I don't think he's going to get very much time, if anything at all.
Just found out yesterday kid’s mom is a co-worker of a very good friend (Mom is a LT COL in the Army Dental Corps). She’s been out on leave during the trial and when she requested more leave time he found out why. Per friend, the kid comes by his total lack of common sense honestly.
A: He doesn't know what he's doing.
Pro se litigants sound quite reasonable to the non-lawyer, but it's like a non-engineer listening to somebody talk about a perpetual motion machine or getting gasoline from tap water. Just from your non-expert account of what happened, filtered as it is, I can see four or five places where he just plain messed up and didn't do what he could have done to remedy the situation, assuming there is actually some corruption going on there. Which I doubt. One crooked Superior Court judge in a rural county, yes. I've seen 'em. But an entire statewide court, 9 or 7 judges, ALL corrupt? ALL risking their careers and law licenses to squash one individual?
A hallmark of every pro se litigant, civil or criminal, is accusations of corruption and illegality when things don't go their way. One cycled through the case reports just a couple of weeks ago - not content with accusing the trial court, the lawyers, and all the judges on the Court of Appeals of corruption, he accused them of High Treason. The case was apparently published just so everybody could point and laugh.
Do-it-yourself home brain surgery.
Wrong.
I have considered the options, that is why I said “likely.”
Wrong.
Ummmm..., I didn't know I was speaking to a clairovyant ... LOL ...
You find three or four sympathetic and agreeable individuals who are willing to be plaintiffs (we got some great ones, including a retired State Trooper who was disabled due to being shot and wounded in the line of duty), and you file a complaint to overturn the law and rule it unconstitutional.
The style of the case was Coleman et al. v. City of Atlanta et al.. Frank Hull was the judge, she is a liberal but a very honest judge, and she acknowledged that she didn't like it, but we were clearly in the right. We got our permanent injuction, the law was declared unconstitutional, the local governments did not appeal (they were afraid to because we wiped the floor with them in the trial court), and the law died a quiet and ignominious death. Then all the local gun rights organizations lobbied the legislature to pass a pre-emption law in the next session. Which they did.
Problem solved.
Don’t need to be when you said: “which you don’t seem to have considered”
That was wrong.
Have a nice day.
I am rooting for 18 months and the piles.
Watch Obama pardon him and give him a grant.
The 22-year-old man accused of hacking into the Yahoo! email account of Sarah Palin while she was the Republican candidate for vice president was found guilty of two of four counts: unlawful computer access and obstruction of justice,
Well, we were half right. Gubmint decision coming next week whether to retry the case. Sentencing after that.
That's what happened in the Julie Hiatt Steele trial - one of my sibs was on that jury and two people said that since Clinton had gotten off, there was no way they'd vote to convict someone that far down.
The last time I got called for jury duty, they told us what fridge we could use.
In a state where there has NEVER been a judge even charged with a corruption related offense.
Take a look at this link if you want to read about just how corrupt a state supreme court can be.
This is a different case that to one I am talking about, and the one I am talking about is much worse.
That means you have absolutely no excuse. If a judge is crooked, get organized and get behind an honest candidate and throw him out. I have worked on a number of judicial campaigns for "new broom" candidates who have replaced "good old boy" judges.
Once you successfully dump a couple of them, the rest get religion and straighten up.
If you wake up one morning and suddenly discover that all the judges in your state are crooks, you have not been paying attention.
Quit fooling with this stupid jury nullification nonsense and go out and do some real work for honest judicial candidates. You could help elect 3-4 good conservative constitutional judges before you ever get called to the jury pool, let alone get on a jury.
I actually served on a jury a little while ago (they were crazy to take me, but I talked shop with the lawyers afterwards and they said there were other people they needed to get rid of worse than they needed to get rid of me!)
They fed us lunch for three days - a day and a half of trial and a day and a half of deliberations. The first two days they took us out to a nice family restaurant on the courthouse square, where we had a private room in the back. Not white tablecloth but a checked tablecloth joint. All they asked was that we keep our entree under $5, which was easy to do. We were pretty close to a verdict on the third day at lunchtime, so we asked the bailiff if they could order us a pizza so we could keep working. And they did.
Here are a series of FReeper articles on the E-mail Hacker, David Kernell and Sarah Palin ...
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