Posted on 04/29/2010 8:04:43 AM PDT by ethics
USCCB Migration Chairman Joins Arizona Bishops in Decrying Anti-Immigrant Measure, Calls for Comprehensive Reform
WASHINGTON— In solidarity with the Catholic bishops of Arizona, Bishop John C. Wester of Salt Lake City, chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Committee on Migration, issued a statement April 27, opposing the enactment and implementation of Arizona SB 1070, which criminalizes undocumented immigrants.
“This new law, although limited to the State of Arizona, could have impact throughout the nation, in terms of how members of our immigrant communities are both perceived and treated,” Bishop Wester said in the statement. “SB 1070 gives law enforcement officials powers to detain and arrest individuals based on a very low legal standard, possibly leading to the profiling of individuals based upon their appearance, manner of speaking, or ethnicity.”
Bishop Wester called SB 1070 “symptomatic of the absence of federal leadership on the issue of immigration” and called for “the Administration and Congress to work in a bipartisan manner to enact comprehensive immigration reform as soon as possible.” Full text of the statement follows.
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But the University of Notre Dame is a Catholic University, run by the Catholic Church is it not?
And Catholic Bishops and Nuns are “employed and hired” so to speak, by the Catholic Church, are they not?
So when those authorities agitate, sympathize, and toil for the Democrat Party, then they are working for the enemy, are they not?
American Catholics are Marxists ?
Not True ! God’s elect will always be committed to the one, holy and apostolic “faith”. Those that follow the Liberation Theology of the Jesuit order, their faith will fail them because their faith was based on sand Jesuit liberation Theology and not Jesus’s teachings which is the “Rock”.
Jesus said to them, “Watch out and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” i.e., the Jesuit’s Liberation Theology. Matthew 15
Hard to keep the flock in line with the truth I guess.
It is not condescension, it is intolerance. I see this as far more simple than the picture you are trying to paint. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Abandoning the Church and participating in the attack on the Church with the left makes one no more than a useful idiot of the left and the godless.
You may consider me intolerant but tolerance is not a Christian virtue. Neither is cowardice. Charity, justice, mercy, prudence, honesty -- these are Christian virtues.
That guy was telling a form of lie, there was no sea change, the Catholic vote has always been liberal.
Republicans have rarely ever won the Catholic vote, and that was almost always for reelections.
In 2000 for instance Catholics voted for Al Gore, but in 2004, they voted 52% for the Republican, of course in that same year, Hispanics that were Protestant voted 56% for the Republican.
I think that you are missing the point, the church is clearly also part of the left, the church and the rest of the left has it's intense internal arguments, but come election time the party of the left can count on the Catholics to carry their water.
Do you think the church is going to help the left or the right on this immigration issue, and which side do you think that the church has always been on regarding immigration being forced onto the American people?
You need to look past your own prejudices. As Archbishop Chaput points out there is a significant difference between those who call themselves Catholic and those who actually live the faith and that those who actually live the faith vote predominantly Republican.
Catholic social teaching goes well beyond abortion. In America we have many urgent issues that beg for our attention, from immigration reform to health care to poverty to homelessness.
Seventy years ago the great French writer Georges Bernanos published a little essay called "Sermon of an Agnostic on the Feast of St. Théresè." Bernanos had a deep distrust for politics and an equally deep love for the Catholic Church. He could be brutally candid. He disliked both the right and the left. He also had a piercing sense of irony about the comfortable, the self-satisfied and the lukewarm who postured themselves as Catholic -- whether they were laypeople or clergy.
In his essay he imagined "what any decent agnostic of average intelligence might say, if by some impossible chance the [pastor] were to let him stand awhile in the pulpit [on] the day consecrated to St. Théresè of Lisieux."
"Dear brothers," says the agnostic from the pulpit, "many unbelievers are not as hardened as you imagine. … [But when] we seek [Christ] now, in this world, it is you we find, and only you. … It is you Christians who participate in divinity, as your liturgy proclaims; it is you ‘divine men' who ever since [Christ's] ascension have been his representatives on earth. … You are the salt of the earth. [So if] the world loses its flavor, who is it I should blame? … The New Testament is eternally young. It is you who are so old. … Because you do not live your faith, your faith has ceased to be a living thing."
Bernanos had little use for the learned, the proud or the superficially religious. He believed instead in the little flowers -- the Thérèse of Lisieuxs -- that sustain the Church and convert the world by the purity, simplicity, innocence and zeal of their faith. That kind of faith is a gift. But it's a gift each of us can ask for, and each of us will receive, if we just have the courage to choose it and then act on it. The only people who ever really change the world are saints. Each of us can be one of them. But we need to want it, and then follow the path that comes with it.
You need to get past calling everyone prejudiced.
The guy tried to imply that the Catholics voting for Obama was unusual, a “sea change”, that is a form of lie, Catholics are generally liberal and almost always vote Democrat.
If the guy is writing about the Catholic vote then he knows the truth and he should have not tried to give the reader that false impression, that is lying.
See post 46.
Heads up Michigan freepers:
Posted: 12:32 p.m. April 29, 2010
Detroit Latinos to rally
against anti-illegal
immigration laws, seek
reform
By NIRAJ WARIKOO
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
Latinos are planning to rally in Michigan this
weekend for immigration reform — including a
group of students who left today from a Detroit
high school and are walking to Ann Arbor in
advance of President Obama’s talk on Saturday,
said community activists.
You need to get over yourself and your presumption of piety and authority. I will stop pointing out prejudice the moment I don't see it.
When someone categorically assumes that the acts of every failed, nonpracticing, or self-proclaimed Catholic represents the actual position of faithful Catholics and the Church it is prejudicial thinking.
I guess you are going to ignore my posts and just make up your own stuff, no wonder the Democrat party can depend on Catholicism to power home their agendas.
I ignored the part you got wrong. You stated:
" The guy tried to imply that the Catholics voting for Obama was unusual, a “sea change”,"
Go back and read my post. Archbishop refuted the presumption that voting for Obama represented a "sea change". That is exactly the opposite of your conclusion.
Now answer my question. Why, other than a perverse curiosity born in an anti-Catholic prejudice, would you lurk on a Catholic topic threads and make critical, nonfactual posts?
First, this is an immigration thread in News/Activism, conservative freepers are not “lurking” here.
Second he was trying to give the impression that people thought that Catholics voting liberal was a “sea change” and then he went into the even goofier strategy of saying that it wasn’t a “sea change” because the Catholics that attending services more frequently generally voted for McCain.
Conservatives are tired of having to fight the Left/Catholic voting block. Conservative politics and American elections is something that you should look into.
The so-called Catholic voting block is as mythological as the unicorn. I am typical of the practicing Catholics I know. In addition to being a devout, practicing Catholic, I am a life long conservative Republican, NRA member, and combat vet (11B20P).
Now tell me about your problems with Catholics and I will cite goofy examples and trends from what ever denomination you are and let you deny the "one size fits all" conclusions you are leaping to.
Nobody is claiming that you were one of the 54% of Catholics that voted for Obama, or that you personally are part of the majority of Catholics that have voted liberal for at least a century.
Not even all blacks vote Democrat, we have black freepers that are conservative Republicans, but that doesn’t mean that most blacks don’t vote Democrat.
As a conservative you should be striving to learn what we can do to win the Catholic vote over to Republicans and what we can do to stop church leaders from pushing the liberal agenda.
Ping!
Why keep worshipping where you don’t believe they are practicing what they teach?
Hardly surprising. A substantial number of illegal aliens are Catholic and the Catholic Church in America, like most mainstream Protestant Chruches, has assumed a liberal posture with a number of social issues from Guns to the Death Sentence.
You misjudge both me and the Church. First, there is a significant difference between declaring oneself a Catholic and actually being a Catholic. It is a bit like declaring oneself to be a marathon runner and actually being one. Secondly, I am well versed in the Catechism of the Church and know when and who deviates from it. I do not jump to superficial conclusions about the Church like so many nonpracticing Catholics and anti-Catholic Protestants. But then, I can't expect you to know the difference.
“First, there is a significant difference between declaring oneself a Catholic and actually being a Catholic.”
Huh?
what about Hebrews 13:17?
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