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Referendum could delay AZ immigration law to 2012
The Arizona Daily Sun ^ | April 28 2010 | JJ Cooper & P Davenport

Posted on 04/29/2010 2:59:50 AM PDT by ketelone

Challenges to Arizona's tough new law targeting illegal immigration have started to emerge, with a Latino clergy group planning to file the first lawsuit seeking to halt enforcement of the crackdown and others aiming to block the law at the ballot box.

The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders says it will file suit Thursday in Phoenix federal court, the first of several lawsuits expected in coming months.

A draft of the complaint obtained by The Associated Press shows the coalition will seek an injunction preventing authorities from enforcing the law. The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders, and that Arizona's law violates due-process rights by allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be detained before they're convicted.

Other Hispanic and civil rights groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, are also planning lawsuits. And U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said the federal government may challenge the law.

On Wednesday, a group filed papers to launch a referendum drive that could put the law on hold until 2012 if organizers wait until the last minute to turn in petition signatures needed to get the measure on the ballot.

Opponents of the law have until late July or early August to file the more than 76,000 signatures _ the same time the law is set to go into effect. If they get enough signatures, the law would be delayed until a vote.

But the deadline to put a question on the November ballot is July 1, and a referendum filing later than that could delay a vote on the law until 2012, officials with the Secretary of State's Office said.

"That would be a pretty big advantage" to the law's opponents, said Andrew Chavez, head of a Phoenix-based petition-circulating firm and chairman of the One Arizona referendum campaign.

The legislation's chief sponsor, Republican Rep. Russell Pearce, said he has no doubt voters will support the new law at the ballot box, which would then protect it from repeal by the Legislature. In Arizona, measures approved by voters can only be repealed at the ballot box.

The law, which thrust Arizona into the national spotlight since Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed it last week, requires local and state law enforcement to question people about their immigration status if there's reason to suspect they're in the country illegally, and makes it a state crime to be in the United States illegally.

The clergy group's lawsuit targets a provision allowing police to arrest illegal-immigrant day laborers seeking work on the street or anyone trying to hire them, according to the draft. It says the solicitation of work is protected by the First Amendment.

State Rep. Ben Miranda, a Phoenix Democrat who will serve as the local attorney on the case, said it was important to file the suit quickly to show local Latinos and the rest of the country that there's still a chance the law won't be enacted.

"I think there's real damage being caused right now," Miranda said. "How do you measure the kind of fear ... going on in many parts of this community?"

At least three Arizona cities also are considering lawsuits to block the law. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon said the measure would be "economically devastating," and called on the City Council to sue the state to stop it from taking effect.

The council rejected that idea Tuesday, yet the mayor told reporters he retained legal counsel to prepare a lawsuit to file on behalf of the city.

Tucson leaders also are considering their options to block the law, and Flagstaff City Councilman Rick Swanson said the city had a duty to protect its residents who might be targeted.

Meanwhile, the effect of the law continued to ripple beyond Arizona.

A Republican Texas lawmaker said she'll introduce a measure similar to the Arizona law next year. Texas Rep. Debbie Riddle of Tomball said she will push for the law in the January legislative session, according to Wednesday's editions of the San Antonio Express-News and Houston Chronicle.

And Republicans running for governor in Colorado and Minnesota expressed support for the crackdown. "I'd do something very similar" if elected," Former Rep. Scott McInnis, told KHOW-AM radio in Denver.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; illegals; immigration; mexicans
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To: BelegStrongbow

no you’re not, it’;s the far left, illegals and a couple of Ron Paul idiots who are.

Having been through the immigration for years and legally I might add then they are only enforcing federal law so if bozo does not like federal law then he should change it

Look why doesn’t the far left, the kooks and illegals actually really say what they want.
no borders at all after all that is what they really want


21 posted on 04/29/2010 5:02:06 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: ketelone
We need to start spreading our own disinfo...

I dunno -- maybe something like once they are granted citizenship all the men over a certain age and below a certain age are going to be drafted and sent to fight in multiples of wars like Iraq. And maybe, throw in that the government has plans THEN to lock down the border so that they can't escape back to Mexico...we need to get creative. Just start massive disinfo campaigns aimed at making them distrust the Democrat party and scare them.

22 posted on 04/29/2010 5:07:58 AM PDT by riri
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To: BelegStrongbow
Delusional?

To the “Progressives” it's not about doing the right thing. It's all about votes and power.

The “Progressives” have already demonstrated their number one priority is their control and implementation of their agenda, not the good of the USA.

If their successful in their amnesty push, voting rights for these illegal immigrants will follow shortly.

We've become a nation of selective law enforcement and are becoming a nation without borders. What follows next is the loss of sovereignty and anarchy.

Delusional? Indeed.

23 posted on 04/29/2010 5:15:06 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: ketelone
I am participating in the reverse boycott of Arizona. I have transferred all my on line-biz to Arizona business. 1-800-Pet-Meds in FL loses for now, but Arizona wins. My doggie is happy too.

Finally a state law that helps American Workers get the jobs. With Utah, Ohio, Texas and a few others are working on passing a similar law, maybe all illegals, from any country will go home and work in their country or go to SF, Nanny P's district. What part of illegal doesn't Washington DC understand. Winds of change are in the air and coming soon.

Arizona Chamber of Commerce Directory. http://www.azchamber.com/localchambers/index.cfm?ID=34

Buy Arizona!

24 posted on 04/29/2010 5:18:40 AM PDT by Pit1
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To: Revel

don’t the sigs have to be registered voters?


25 posted on 04/29/2010 5:30:03 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Rational Thought

It is too bad that someone in the blogosphere does not do a short biography on Congressman Grijalva. Ironically, as a local politician of limited intelligence but easily swayed, he was the pointman financed by Jewish interests determined to halt the creation of a Middle East Institute at the U. of Arizona with Arab funds. After that effort ended successfully, Grijalva had a financial base. Then when the state was Gerrymandered to limit the impact of the Latino vote, he ran and won in the Latino district. As the years have passed Grijalva has become two faced, both bad; he supports the most radical of the irridentist Mexican movements, and his economic philosophy has become pure Marxism. In sum, he is still a stupid man, but now he is a dangerous radical.


26 posted on 04/29/2010 5:36:43 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: ketelone
I wonder how many of these people who are advocating for the poor Mexicans just trying to make a living will be going to Mexico with them to help them pull that country out of the sludge it is in. If they are so hard working, then they will be willing to work hard to make their own country prosperous.

Think of the improvements to that country that can be made with the skills that have been learned here in the US.

27 posted on 04/29/2010 5:44:01 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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To: driftdiver

I’ve got to answer two others who give essentially the same response as you. I understand that Progressives are sick and tired of this persuasion shtick and want to go directly to command and control, but my point was how stupid do people have to be to not see that you can’t make two things that are identical to be different. A=A. I guess I was suggesting the wrong people to be delusional. It would be anyone fool enough to trust the current government and MSM.

I’m just not ready to be a willing field-hand for the new plantation owners. I’m thinking those in bed with the MSM/government aren’t either and are angling for redneck jobs. Cracking the whip on slaves can be fun, if you don’t mind considering the crackees to be less human than you are (I’m real short on being able to do that).


28 posted on 04/29/2010 5:46:07 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: manc

see my post #28


29 posted on 04/29/2010 5:46:50 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: Rational Thought

see my post #28


30 posted on 04/29/2010 5:47:08 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: Revel

Yes and good point. A good conservative counter is to have the ‘offended’ illegal supporting group verify that everyone of those 76,000 signatures is a living legal resident of AZ!!


31 posted on 04/29/2010 5:48:13 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Liz

The IRS won’t do a thing. They’re too busy hassling car wash owners who owe 4 cents.


32 posted on 04/29/2010 5:55:59 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: BelegStrongbow

I think I understand where you are coming from. IMO many people are so disillusioned with the process or stuck on themselves that they burned out. They just don’t care and prefer to stick their heads in the sand.

I’ve read that even during the Rev. War only about 30% of the population supported the cause. With another 30% supporting the British and the remaining refusing to take a position.

We need to learn from our enemy and use modern media to our advantage. Stop having unrealistic expectations that people will suddenly wake up and fight. A large percentage won’t until the oven doors close on them.


33 posted on 04/29/2010 6:29:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ketelone
The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders,

So if the federal government REFUSES to protect its citizens, then the state is PREVENTED from doing it?

34 posted on 04/29/2010 7:05:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: RSmithOpt

From pretty much all petitions for a ballot initiative I have seen, the 76,000 have to be registered voters.


35 posted on 04/29/2010 7:08:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: McGavin999

We are rapidly devolving into a turd world country. Our voting system is one of the most corrupt in the world, our politicians refuse to enforce laws to protect the citizens from an illegal alien invasion, the president himself is neck deep in a scheme to steal $10 TRILLION a year from the people by forcing them to pay for “carbon credits”, nearly half the people who work pay no payroll taxes at all, the various socialists in the Obastard regime are collaborating to shut down free speech on the radio and the Internet, and it goes on and on and on.


36 posted on 04/29/2010 7:12:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: ketelone
Existing Federal immigration law specifically permits states to make arrests of those suspected of being in violation.

This is totally bogus.

37 posted on 04/29/2010 7:14:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And we have allowed it. We've been pushed to the wall with political correctness and we have to do something about it.

People are just going to do what is necessary regardless. They played a dangerous game when the made disregarding the law a possibility.

38 posted on 04/29/2010 7:23:43 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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To: ketelone; SandRat
USC Title 8, Section 1324(c)

(c) Authority to arrest
No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests for a violation of any provision of this section except officers and employees of the Service designated by the Attorney General, either individually or as a member of a class, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.

Allow me to parse this:

No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests [snip] except [list] and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.

Note: it doesn't say simply "Federal Laws," as there is a LONG history of state and local officials making arrests for incidences of Federal crimes.
39 posted on 04/29/2010 7:24:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: ketelone

40 posted on 04/29/2010 8:37:17 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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