Obama Family: "Barack Obama Sr Married Anna Toot in Hawaii" "Their union produced B. Obama Jr."

All Africa ^ | 15 August 2004 | John Oywa

[bushpilot1]

"According to the family, Obama's father travelled to America to study at the University of Hawaii in 1959.

While there, he worked for an oil company and married his second wife, a white woman, named Anna Toot, and their union produced Barack Obama Jr.

Obama's book says Obama Snr left his family in Hawaii after winning a scholarship to study in Harvard when his son was two years old.

The marriage later broke up after Anna's father opposed it, according to Mama Sarah.

"Anna's father was furious about the marriage and threatened to have Obama Snr expelled from the university. Our son sent us letters, pleading that we intervene to save the marriage," remembers Sarah."

[Candor7]

So Barak is a Toot?>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama is an Islamic Toot. Thats makes him a root a toot Toot.

[Fred Nerks]

Long story...the article this came from was from an African publication dated 2004. There were a number of anomalies, and one of them was that the kenyan student had gone to the US for his education, and while he was there, he worked for an oil company and married a woman named Anna Toot.
Most perplexing.
Remember, Aunt Zeituni also said that he wrote home and told them he had a son in Hawaii?

There was only one member of the clan who could read, and that was Onyango, he read the kenyan student’s letters out to the members of the clan - who retold the story, it was an oral society, and the names you hear and see are the result of phonetics.

Anna Toot could have been Anna Tout, or even Annie Tutu, but Anna Toot stuck, and must have had a long enough life in the retelling because there’s a passage in ‘Dreams’ that attempts to account for Anna Toot. (I won’t bother posting it again.)

But it’s enough to remind you that Stanley Ann Dunham was named both Ann and Anna in a conversation invented by the author, and that’s when Madelyn first became known as TOOT. It must have been seen as essential to get rid of the names of the woman he wrote home about.
Anna Toot, or even Annie Tutu was a liabilty, she had to be written out. And she was.
As for the oil company, you don’t think the kenyan’s huge ego was going to allow him to admit he was working in the pine-apple cannery for the Dole Corp, as it shows on his documentaion, do you?
So he wrote home to say he was employed by an oil company, knowing that no one in the clan would know there was no oil in Hawaii.
Alternatively, there’s an article that maintains he said, when he was interviewed in 1962, that he hadn’t been in Kenya for seven years. He may have said he hadn’t been home for seven years, meaning the village, but if that statement is true as it was made, then he had plenty of time to marry someone named Anna Toot or Tout (or Annie Tutu which has been explained by a freeper as meaning oldersister/auntie) and actually work somewhere, but that could have been on the mainland, and his docs show he boarded an aircraft in the UK to fly to New York where he landed in August, 1959.

Sorry you mentioned it?

One thing I’m sure of is that the person in Kenya who provided this little vignette didn’t get the name out of the Seattle Polk directory which showed Anna Obama living on Capitol Hill.

There were people in Kenya who knew her name four years before we heard of any Anna Obama in Seattle, and I doubt very much of they bought a copy of ‘Dreams’ - but I suppose it’s possible zero gave them copies to study, by 1992 when it was published iirc, there would have been a few more literates in the village...

So we’re back to, yes, he wrote home to his father, both Zeituni and this person telling the story remember, he married a woman and had a child, we just don’t know the dates on the letters and we still don’t know who ANNA TOOT was, but valiant attempts have been made to turn the two of them into SAD and zero.

[Fred Nerks]

Must have slipped past the Mods, the correct title of this post should be:

Kenya: Special Report: Sleepy Little Village Where Obama Traces His Own Roots
By John Oywa, 15 August 2004

http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html

Not that it matters now, we still don’t know who he is.

[Greenperson]

OMG. I’ve made so many comments that I’d love to know which ones have stood the test of time! :) Can you be more precise? Thanks for the pings. The Dauphin. Who’d’ve thunk it?

[dalereed]

“Barry is trying to shake us off his scent”

His stink is so pungent nothing he could do can shake the stink!!

[Fred Nerks]

I meant in the matter of the family relationships of the baby-sitter, particularly in #363 - there was great confusion for some time with all the Mary’s in that family. There’s only one small slip later, and that’s suggesting Mary the baby-sitter was Latvian, that refers to the second wife of Joseph.
You had a better handle on all of them than the rest of us who were trying to make sense of it all.
And you picked up on the discrepancy in the Charlette Le Fevre report very early.

[Greenperson]

I figured it had to do with Mary Toutonghi. btw, I hope you had a Happy Christmas!

Yes, Mary’s saga was one of my particular pet peeves.

I hadn’t re-read this entire thread when I commented just now. I see my old comments now, and I realized my mistake about the two wives as soon as I read that.

Actually, at that point in time, I may not have known about Ruta, but my memory fails and there are too many details crammed into my brain by now, so I can’t be sure.

Ruta is Latvian, but I believe Mary is also “white Russian”. Latvian. Maiden name Zolin. Strangely enough, Ruth Baker Ndesandjo is Lithuanian, also sometimes called “white Russian”.

Maybe just one big happy family, huh? Do they all kind of resemble each other?

The biggest discrepancy concerning Mary was her “mistake” in math, where she claimed she babysat Obama when he was 7 months old, which would put his birth back in January 1961 or right around the time his “parents” supposedly married.

[Fred Nerks]

...The biggest discrepancy concerning Mary was her “mistake” in math, where she claimed she babysat Obama when he was 7 months old, which would put his birth back in January 1961 or right around the time his “parents” supposedly married.

That was the important breakthrough that made it evident Anna Obama wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham, no matter how Mary tried to get around it, she put her foot in it when she said she baby-sat when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was 18 months old.

That article has been removed - but I do have a copy saved. I'll send you the text freepmail. It confirms what you wrote. Mary tried to cover herself later by making the child seven months old, but that comes out the same, January plus 7 months = August. She later added the seven months to AUGUST! And that took her to February/March 1962 according to her, but as you had already written, how did ANNA OBAMA get herself into the Polk for 1961-1962 if she showed up in early 1962...and of course that conflicts with the U of WA transcript. (The one that appeared out of thin air.)

[Fred Nerks]

...Ruta is Latvian, but I believe Mary is also “white Russian”. Latvian. Maiden name Zolin. Strangely enough, Ruth Baker Ndesandjo is Lithuanian, also sometimes called “white Russian”.

There's still something seriously wrong with the Ruth Ndesandjo story imo, not with the T.o.u.t.o.n.g.h.i. background, we now know Mary Zolin lived in Hollywood, which is where she went to school with the children of Bob Hope (she says) and that's where the eldest, Mary-Agnes was living, she married the geologist Oskar Franz Van Beveren in Heliopolis in 1944. The remainder of that family arrived in 1946, two years after Mary-Agnes. They embarked in Cairo.

Ruta, the second wife of Joseph was definitely Latvian:

PAULS WRITES, beautiful story.

It's the wiki revisions that Sally Jacobs made a few days before her book on the student from kenya was released, that are a surprise. No mention of where the family of Ruth came from, that she was from a Lithuanin Jewish family of refugees has disappeared, and instead of the family name of NIDZON, we have BAKER:

WIKI REVISION

[Greenperson]

One has to wonder where the original surname—Nidesand—came from. Suddenly, she’s Ruth Baker.

You know, that happens in most families doesn’t it? People’s names change. People have various aliases. Barry Soetoro. Barack Hussein Obama II. Steve Dunham. Ruth Nidesand. Ruth Baker. Shirley Ann Dunham. Anna Obama. Ann Dunham. Malik. Roy. Sadik. Bernard. Onyango. Omar.

[Fred Nerks]

TRANSLATE

Meant to do this ages ago, now you have reminded me. Seems that if the family was LATVIAN, and their name was BEIKER, they may have changed the spelling to BAKER.

Same goes for the YIDDISH, BIEKER. People from europe who changed their surnames usually retained a similarity to the original.

I think Nidesand came from Ndesandjo. It has a dutch-colonial ring to it, and there are Nidesands in South Africa, which made me wonder at one time, if Ruth may not have been a foreign student herself. What-ever and who-ever she is/was, her background seems to start with Sally Jacob's identification of her as Ruth (Beatrice) Baker:

Image supposedly from 1951.

[Candor7]

Hi Fred, I am following the Toot story with some interst. Why shouldn’t POSHITUS be raised by a commune?

[EnquiringMind]

Or one backward palindrome.

[Fred Nerks]

I have no idea where ‘commune’ enters into the discussion.

[Candor7]

I have no idea where ‘commune’ enters into the discussion.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sorry to date myself here, but the socialist movement in its earlier days experimented with raising children communally. The3y lived and worked in close proximity to oneanother and shared childcare. It may be that this was going on with this crowd, making it difficult to trace parentage in the early years. This made for hand me down kids, who were emotionally insecure and somewhat self raised, and overly competative.

One of the goals of the Communist party USA was :

“41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influences of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of the parents. “

Scroll down to the seeming community continuity of socialist connections , and one cannot help but project back in time to try to investigate just who raised baby Bama in his early years in what commune?

In any event, Obama seems to have a visceral connection to the Socialist Community, scroll down for:

“Obama’s Circle of Communist Friends and Leftest Appointees”

Out of what community did such a socialist trajectory arise in Obamas life. There is little evidence of it in “Dreams.”
It is in this sense that Obama may be the product of more than one family, or even one parent.It strikes me that Obama acts as if he had been raised in a commune.

[Fred Nerks]

There’s a baby photo no one knows where it was taken, he’s shown as a toddler in the backyard of a shack somewhere tropical, he showed up in Hawaii at the age of approx three, a little later he’s riding a tricycle, wearing a U of HI Tshirt, playing with a baseball bat, at kindergarten in an image that might be fake, then he’s in Indonesia, followed be a period in Hawaii in 1969, back to Indonesiaa, returning to Hawaii christmas 1970, just to name a few. I don’t see any space in there to be raised in a commune - see what you can come up with:

http://www.imagesaving.com/images/zerocosps.jpg

[Jedidah]

No kidding.

Almost like someone is playing with us.

What are you doing digging through ancient threads? There’s probably buried treasure there.

[Greenperson]

Ruth was Lithuanian. The translation of Baker to Lithuanian gives us Kepėjas. Your link says Baker in Latvian could also be either Maiznieks or Maiznīca. But since she's Lithuanian, perhaps the family name was originally Kepejas. Even so, Latvia and Lithuania are close to each other and different ethnicities were represented. Lithuanian Jews were often communists. Nidesand could just be what some reporter "heard" when Ruth's family was first mentioned in association with Obama. On the other hand, they may have deliberately obfuscated the story. Census records refer to her father as "Russian".

[Fred Nerks]

I think I might have made a mess of that, the name, if the family was Jewish, might have been YIDDISH which comes from the German, and most european jews spoke yiddish, so the German Baecker, becomes Baker in english.

The family may have lived in Lithuania, but would not have had a Lithuanian name.

Nidesand could also be a version of Ndesandjo, and for a very long time we had a family tree of NIDZON who were also apparently refugees, and supposedly connected to Ruth's family; in other words, we have very little to go on prior to her showing up as Ruth Beatrice Baker in the book by Sally Jacobs:

BOOK EXCEPT LINK

But Dowling genealogy has this recent entry:

LINK

[Greenperson]

That rootsweb link you provided says Maurice Baker came from Olyka, Russia. What’s interesting is that Olyka was in Russia, then Lithuania, then Poland, then Russia again, then Poland again, then (and finally) Ukraine. It was the home village of the Radziwills. We know who they were.

It also says that Maurice Baker worked as manager of a “gast station”.