Posted on 04/27/2010 8:28:30 AM PDT by evets
The remains of Noah's Ark have been discovered 13,000ft up a Turkish mountain, it has been claimed.
A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers say they have found wooden remains on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey.
They claim carbon dating proves the relics are 4,800 years old — around the same time the ark was said to be afloat.
Yeung Wing-Cheung, from the Noah's Ark Ministries International research team, said: "It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it."
He said the structure contained several compartments, some with wooden beams, that they believe were used to house animals.
The group of evangelical archaeologists ruled out an established human settlement on the grounds none have ever been found above 11,000ft in the vicinity, Yeung said.
Local Turkish officials will ask the central government in Ankara to apply for UNESCO World Heritage status so the site can be protected while a major archaeological dig is conducted.
The biblical story says that God decided to flood the Earth after seeing how corrupt it was.
He then told Noah to build an ark and fill it with two of every animal species.
After the flood waters receded, the Bible says, the ark came to rest on a mountain.
Many believe that Mount Ararat, the highest point in the region, is where the ark and her inhabitants ran aground.
I don't know, it's not like there aren't entire monasteries and universities built at higher altitudes...
For a chunk of the world, 12,000 feet is nearly sea level! Check out Nam Tso, a lake in Tibet. It's 800 square MILES (yes, it's BIG) of lake, located 13,000 feet up. And has been settled for at least 2000 years.
Depends...union or non-union?
Maybe there are so many “universal flood” stories because ... it really happened?
I read a great book about this. The plates slid forming the mid atlantic ridge when they collided, this was when the bible said the water was unleashed from the depths of the earth, there is actually a lot of evidence supporting the flood, the vapor canapoy around the earth blocked the UV rays and helped those live very long lives pre-flood. I’ll look at the book I have at home, it’s very well done, an older book that looks at all the flood stories in all the ancient cultures and ties them to the biblical account, then explains I think in amazing detail how the oceans and rides and plates all fit the story very nicely.
Hmmm..., it sounds like Twain (and several others here) don’t know too much about the Millennial Kingdom, that one-world government that the Messiah of Israel will establish here on this earth when He returns and sets foot down here again, with Israel being the head nation, over all the other nations of the world.
If he and others knew about that — they might have a bit of a different viewpoint ... LOL ...
Even if you melted all of the current ice in the world it would not raise ocean levels even close to 13,000 feet so where is all of that extra water?
Must be a bunch of boats up there huh?
Give it up man, you will find out during judgement when you bow and confess Jesus is Lord.
Please keep in mind that while the oceans contain a WHOLE LOT of water, there may be 500% MORE water within the mantle of the earth ( http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/03/0307_0307_waterworld.html ). Some of that water could have been temporarily pushed up to the surface 5,000 years ago, which would have resulted in a cataclysmic event such as is described in Scripture and elsewhere.
“True, but 5000 years is a short time for that sort of thing.”
Sure, if it was only natural causes occurring.
The whole account, though, is supernatural.
The water on the surface of the earth is not the whole story. There is MUCH MORE water within the mantle of the earth — perhaps 5 times more within than on the surface.
Looks a bit like Noah’s hunting cabin.
You can’t fool me, that is Al Capone’s Turkish vault.
Local Turkish officials will always say stuff like this.
Anyone remember this "Ark" from the 60s? 
Local Turkish officials built a vistors center 
Then they asked the central government to run a highway by it 
Add sign 
Few people actually go to the vistor center (It's usually closed), but Local Turkish officials now have a nice highway serving the district.
You say that like it's a bad thing!
One explanation was that the Black Sea was a freshwater lake. The Sea level rose in the Mediteranean and the Gap between Turkey and Greece was breached and these settlements were flooded.
Some geologists believe that the Mediterranean had no outlet to the Atlantic where the tip of Spain and Africa and Gibralter exist today. Then the breach occurred there and voila higher sea level. there was the legend of the Volcano which destoyed Atlantis and so it goes on.
Personnal I think it was Gorebull warming caused by Fred Flintstone's auto emissions!
However you can read more at
Interesting folklore from one of the oldest races in China -— the Miao’s...
SOURCE :
http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=341
The Miao tribes, or as it is spelled in most encyclopedias “Miautso,” at one time occupied most of inland China south of the Yangtze River, but have been gradually driven into the mountains of the southwest by the better-armed and better-organized Chinese. The Miao of our section claim to have been driven out of Kiangsi Province.
The Miao traditions are very precise, as compared with those of many primitive peoples, because they are not only handed down in metrical form, but, also, they are in couplets, in which the same or similar meaning is expressed in different wording, so that the second sentence acts as a definition of the first, where it might otherwise not be clear. This is very much like one form of Hebrew poetry - an example of which is found in Psalm 21:1,2.
The Translation
The Creation
On the day God created the heavens and earth.
On that day He opened the gateway of light.
In the earth then He made heaps of earth and of stone.
In the sky He made bodies, the sun and the moon.
In the earth He created the hawk and the kite.
In the water created the lobster and fish.
In the wilderness made He the tiger and bear,
Made verdure to cover the mountains,
Made forest extend with the ranges,
Made the light green cane,
Made the rank bamboo.
Man
On the earth He created a man from the dirt.
Of the man thus created, a woman He formed.
Then the Patriarch Dirt made a balance of stones.
Estimated the weight of the earth to the bottom. (Note 1)
Calculated the bulk of the heavenly bodies.
And pondered the ways of the Deity, God.
The Patriarch Dirt begat Patriarch Se-teh.
The Patriarch Se-Teh begat a son Lusu.
And Lusu had Gehlo and he begat Lama.
The Patriarch Lama begat the man Nuah.
His wife was the Matriarch Gaw Bo-lu-en.
Their sons were Lo Han, Lo Shen and Jah-hu. (Note 2)
So the earth began filling with tribes and with families.
Creation was shared by the clans and the peoples.
The World Wicked
These did not God’s will nor returned His affection.
But fought with each other defying the Godhead.
Their leaders shook fists in the face of the Mighty
Then the earth was convulsed to the depth of three strata.
Rending the air to the uttermost heaven.
God’s anger arose till His Being was changed;
His wrath flaring up filled His eyes and His face.
Until He must come and demolish humanity.
Come and destroy a whole world full of people.
The Flood
So it poured forty days in sheets and in torrents.
Then fifty-five days of misting and drizzle.
The waters surmounted the mountains and ranges.
The deluge ascending leapt valley and hollow.
An earth with no earth upon which to take refuge!
A world with no foothold where one might subsist!
The people were baffled, impotent and ruined,
Despairing, horror stricken, diminished and finished.
But the Patriarch Nuah was righteous.
The Matriarch Gaw Bo-lu-en upright.
Built a boat very wide.
Made a ship very vast.
Their household entire got aboard and were floated,
The family complete rode the deluge in safety.
The animals with him were female and male.
The birds went along and were mated in pairs.
When the time was fulfilled, God commanded the waters.
The day had arrived, the flood waters receded.
Then Nuah liberated a dove from their refuge,
Sent a bird to go forth and bring again tidings.
The flood had gone down into lake and to ocean;
The mud was confined to the pools and the hollows.
There was land once again where a man might reside;
There was a place in the earth now to rear habitations.
Buffalo then were brought, an oblation to God,
Fatter cattle became sacrifice to the Mighty.
The Divine One then gave them His blessing;
Their God then bestowed His good graces.
Babel
Lo-han then begat Cusah and Mesay. (Note 3)
Lo-shan begat Elan and Nga-shur.
Their offspring begotten became tribes and peoples;
Their descendants established encampments and cities.
Their singing was all with the same tunes and music;
Their speaking was all with the same words and language.
Then they said let us build us a very big city;
Let us raise unto heaven a very high tower.
This was wrong, but they reached this decision;
Not right, but they rashly persisted.
God struck at them then, changed their language and accent.
Descending in wrath, He confused tones and voices.
One’s speech to the others who hear him has no meaning;
He’s speaking in words, but they can’t understand him.
So the city they builded was never completed;
The tower they wrought has to stand thus unfinished.
In despair then they separate under all heaven,
They part from each other the globe to encircle. (Note 4)
They arrive at six corners and speak the six languages.
Miao Genealogy
The Patriarch Jahphu got the center of nations. (Note 5)
The son he begat was the Patriarch Go-men.
Who took him a wife called the Matriarch Go-yong.
Their grandson and his wife both took the name Tutan.
Their descendants are given in order as follows:
Patriarch Gawndan Mew-wan,
Matriarch Cawdan Mew-jew;
Patriarch Jenku Dawvu, Matriarch Jeneo Boje;
Patriarch Gangen Newang (wife not given);
Patriarch Seageweng, Matriarch Maw gueh.
Their children, eleven in number, was each the head of a family.
Five branches became the Miao nation.
Six families joined with the Chinese.
The story continues through many more pages, telling of the separation of the Chinese and Miao; their travels and demon worship, their division into families.
Have they found Noah’s stateroom yet? Did he use the mini-bar? Are there any signs of unicorn dung in the animal stalls? Inquiring minds want to know.
Well....Christians and "Global Climate Change" scientists anyway.
That’s a humorous parody and certainly what parodies are for... LOL ...
But, I would say to people to not confuse a parody with an actual account of what happened — at with the Bible that’s what we get, a real account of what happened. :-)
AND..., there’s a reason for knowing that real account of what happened, from what the Bible tells us — Jesus uses that as an example of the judgment that is still to come — and that’s what we’ve got to be aware of.
Furthermore, there’s another “understory” there in that account in Genesis, about the world-wide flood (which has been discussed here on Free Republic many times, too) — and that “understory” is also really important to understand, especially in today’s culture... :-)
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