Posted on 04/26/2010 11:05:19 AM PDT by Bokababe
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Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last week signed a new law into effect that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that 60% of voters nationwide favor such a law, while 31% are opposed.
Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Republicans support the law along with 62% of voters not affiliated with either major party. Democratic voters are evenly divided on the measure.
At the same time, however, 58% of all voters are at least somewhat concerned that “efforts to identify and deport illegal immigrants will also end up violating the civil rights of some U.S. citizens.” That figure includes 29% who are Very Concerned about possible civil rights violations.....
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Ha! Would be great if Sheriff Joe would stop him on a fundraising trip to Phoenix.
Those 31% must be planning to starve to death.
Looks reasonable to me. LOL
We were with a Realtor friend of ours who lives just north of Rosarito Beach. He turned to us in the car and said, "Don't be scared. These are the good guys. They wear ski masks so that the drug cartels can't identify them and kill them and their families."
I am thinking, "Yeah right. Six guys in ski masks with ouzis, and you're telling me not to be scared! Are you crazy? And how do we know these are the good guys and not the drug cartel given that they are all unidentifiable?" Luckily, it was all OK. But it didn't exactly leave me with a warm, fuzzy feeling about going to Baja anymore, let alone buying a house down there.
This isn’t even about the illegal immigrants just as the health care bill wasn’t really about health care. They only care about destroying America and rebuilding it in form of a soviet style dictatorship. It will happen sooner than anybody is ready for.
While my heart tends to agree with you my head says what is the alternative?
My 'papers' are checked every time I come back home to America after a trip.
The law, as written, requires probable cause to inquire about citizenship only after police contact has been made.
Curious though, if an enemy of ours sent an army across the border while not in uniform how would you identify them?
I didn't blame the illegals. I squarely put the onus for my loss on my competitors who unfairly used illegal labor to undercut my prices.
I support those solutions too, but how are we supposed to deal with the illegals who are in our midst now?
We need to cut off the carrot (benefits) and apply the stick (deportation - enforcement) to the backs of those who are breaking the law.
Enforcement of our laws is a necessary part of the solution.
You have a US driver’s license, or a green card, or some other form of ID that proves you are here legally.
Police in many states if not nationwide already use “reasonable suspicion” in the daily course of enforcing many laws- ranging from DWI to murder investigations. The only thing different about this law is the law that will be enforced. Many talking heads seem to think the “reasonable suspicion” wording is what will get this law overturned. If so then many incarcerated people in Arizona and elsewhere will have to be turned loose as that legal term was used to stop and question them. It usually goes like this...person driving is weaving all over the road- crossing center line once is enough though- bang- reasonable suspicion for traffic stop for DWI and other posible offenses- then officer “checks papers” e.g. driver’s license, insurance, registration- at that point determines whether or not to administer field sobriety test or breath test for alcohol- if subject fails tests then said officer has reached “probable cause” for arrest. Remember it all started with “reasonable suspicion” and your fear about the gun being found in car- already happens and legal under the law for one scenerio to lead to another issue.
I can see individual cases overturned due to officer not meeting the legal standard of reasonable suspicion in that case. That already happens with other law enforcement of course. I don’t see the law itself being overturned, at least not on that issue.
Don’t swallow the lies the media and liberals are selling- this part of the law at least is no different than the way things are done now.
If I'm born here then I won't have a green card. And if I don't have my driver's license on me then what would they do? Release me on the condition I return with it?
I would go you one better. Paid one way ticket to their choice of these liberal utopias: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, Zimbabwe, or China. The money we would save by getting them out of this country would more than pay for the cost of their airfare.
60% of Americans are hate-filled racists. < \Hussein>
LOL.
“60%!? Big deal! 60% voted for one man, one woman in CA. They shot it down. 60% didn’t approve of healthcare. They passed it. It just doesn’t matter to these “people”. November is all they’re going to understand.”
And we will have to MAKE them understand.
“They are a drain on our Republic. Any ideas what to do with these deranged people?”
Defeat everyone they support in the next election.
THey can be kept in captive reserves, otherwise known as “community college”.
please see post 82.
Our FRiend Windflier lost everything he owned because unscrupulous contractors and customers used illegal aliens in the workforce. Unless you two think Americans will work for the same wages as illegals?
@Windflier, My apologies for misreading the tone of your post. You were clear, I just was careless. You & your wife are in my prayers.
We are continually stopped at roadblocks in AZ dare we leave our house. The entire southern desert area looks and feels like a war zone with quite a few "no man's land" areas. We are locked out of using our public lands --- in some cases literally, in others figuratively.
While I am very much against a police state -- we are already being tracked by Big Brother Napolitano's cameras, DPS cars every ten miles on holiday weekends, and the never-ending roadblocks of Border Patrol, Agriculture, DUI checkpoints, and that's even before you get to the airport.
If this harassment and police state is going to continue toward US citizens, you dam# well better believe it'd better be equally applied. Right now, vehicles with out-of-country plates don't even get tickets for running red lights, just for one example.
This "new" law is based on the federal law of needing to carry documentation that you are in the country legally. Just like most if not all other countries require, even if you are working there with the military (like my brother is right now).
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