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Don't Waste Time on the "Birther" Distraction; Impeach Obama for Illegal Internet Gambling
IsraPundit ^ | 4/25/10 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 04/25/2010 12:59:04 PM PDT by Winged Hussar

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To: Winged Hussar

In other words, real people are getting hurt by disinformation that may easily have originated in the Obama camp itself.


No. Asking for his BC, is just doing what is right.


21 posted on 04/25/2010 2:32:22 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Winged Hussar; DNME

Looks more like a raffle.


22 posted on 04/25/2010 2:34:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Winged Hussar

That’s funny, because I just went to Hillbuzz and posted immediately because I was already logged in as Butterdezillion. Maybe there’s a setting where you allow all Wordpress users?

I suppose I could try to register as an IsraPundit user and see what happens.


23 posted on 04/25/2010 2:38:23 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Winged Hussar

As an aside, I could never understand how e-mails could be considered legal evidence, when the body of an e-mail is easily edited and resaved in MS Outlook.


24 posted on 04/25/2010 2:43:58 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom
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To: Winged Hussar

I think the act of lying to the FBI in relation with Blago’s trial at least twice - a felony. Could very easily lead to his impeachment.

As far as the “birther” issue being a distraction? FAR FROM IT. Even IF Obama is not taken down by his CLEAR ineligibility, it is still an issue that MUST be addressed for the security of our nation. If that’s insane, well then I don’t want your so-called “sanity”.


25 posted on 04/25/2010 3:27:11 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Winged Hussar

The issue of where Obama was born - or whether having one parent who was definitely not a U.S. Citizen brings on the resultant question “is Obama a Natural Born U.S. Citizen”. This burning issue is a significant problem for Obama - actually way beyond significant.

The ‘birther’ question will not remove Obama from office this term. But it will keep him from being re-elected... which will have to be good enough.

Obama will soon be a lame duck and will not be able to get significant legislation passed prior to the election... ( other than the Wall Street reforms perhaps... Cap and Trade is dead... Amnesty will be a lot of noise but no law will come of it...

In November Conservatives will win the U.S. House and make significant gains in the Senate - if not winning the Senate Majority too. Then Obama will definitely be an Ugly Lame Duck - impotent... except for screwing us via Regulations and Executive Orders.

When Obama becomes an absolute Lame Duck in November... defunding of the Health Care screwing and other outrages will begin.

The ‘birth’ question is already a known issue among millions of American Voters and the public debate about Obama’s eligibility for presidential office will rise to an absolute crescendo towards Campaign Time 2011. The Democrats may even choose another Presidential Candidate in the primaries as the poll ratings for Obama drop to 25 percent approval or lower.

The question of Obama’s birth is a big thorn in his side and it will fester into a political mortal wound.

Americans by the tens of millions despise Obama - the question of his birth place seals the deal for a huge number of voters...

And this birth issue is being circulated by email millions upon millions of times among American voters... hundreds of millions of email messages will carry this subject by spring of 2011 and will flood the internet by early fall...

The birth issue will seal Obama’s fate and he already knows it.


26 posted on 04/25/2010 5:19:11 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

ping


27 posted on 04/26/2010 6:48:19 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: Winged Hussar; All
How can a USURPER command our armed forces?
How can a USURPER sign any treaties with foreign governments?
How can a USURPER sign anything into law, let alone the health care monstrosity?

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

 

Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:

7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

(e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.

...

the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both." See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

So, back to the question: "HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"
It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born), a fact backed up by Factcheck.org. Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

Barack Obama a/k/a Barry Soetoro * NOT Obama / Soetoro
* This assumes HI birth.
A citizen of 2 countries at birth.

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed the parents (or grandparents or other relative) of baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate. A mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by one of his grandparents (who forged the parent signature(s)) would have been enough to set up a birth record and a birth certificate at the Dept of Health. The Dept of Health would (presumably) then have automatically sent the names of the parents, their address as given on the mailed-in form , the gender of the child, and the date of birth to the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin. The address given for the parents in the newspaper announcements is actually, however, the August 1961 home address of Obama’s maternal grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham [6085 Kalanianaole Highway], and not the 1961 home address of Barack Obama, Sr. [625 11th Ave].) This notification would then have automatically generated the newspaper announcements. (This was the practice of the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin at the time).

Bottom line: Even IF (big IF) he was born in HI, he inherited his father's foreign citizenship as well, making him a US citizen by US law and a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England by inheritance and England's law. He could not be considered a Natural Born Citizen as known by and as intended by the framers.

28 posted on 04/26/2010 9:26:48 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Winged Hussar

Good. Go after Dear Leader on every front.

This is something for the Obama appologists to get behind instead of harassing those who want the constitution’s provision on NBC upheld.


29 posted on 04/26/2010 10:37:31 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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