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U.S. Faces Choice on New Weapons for Fast Strikes
NY Times ^ | April 22, 2010 | DAVID E. SANGER and THOM SHANKER

Posted on 04/23/2010 8:21:21 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON — In coming years, President Obama will decide whether to deploy a new class of weapons capable of reaching any corner of the earth from the United States in under an hour and with such accuracy and force that they would greatly diminish America’s reliance on its nuclear arsenal.

Yet even now, concerns about the technology are so strong that the Obama administration has acceded to a demand by Russia that the United States decommission one nuclear missile for every one of these conventional weapons fielded by the Pentagon. That provision, the White House said, is buried deep inside the New Start treaty that Mr. Obama and President Dmitri A. Medvedev signed in Prague two weeks ago.

Called Prompt Global Strike, the new weapon is designed to carry out tasks like picking off Osama bin Laden in a cave, if the right one could be found; taking out a North Korean missile while it is being rolled to the launch pad; or destroying an Iranian nuclear site — all without crossing the nuclear threshold. In theory, the weapon will hurl a conventional warhead of enormous weight at high speed and with pinpoint accuracy, generating the localized destructive power of a nuclear warhead.

The idea is not new: President George W. Bush and his staff promoted the technology, imagining that this new generation of conventional weapons would replace nuclear warheads on submarines.

In face-to-face meetings with President Bush, Russian leaders complained that the technology could increase the risk of a nuclear war, because Russia would not know if the missiles carried nuclear warheads or conventional ones. Mr. Bush and his aides concluded that the Russians were right.

Partly as a result, the idea “really hadn’t gone anywhere in the Bush administration,” Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who has served both...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: elvisbinladen; promptglobalstrike
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1 posted on 04/23/2010 8:21:21 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

bump


2 posted on 04/23/2010 8:27:09 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: neverdem
Dead since 12/12/01!
3 posted on 04/23/2010 8:28:14 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: jmcenanly

What a laugh, to think our gonad deficient president would approve this. Especially if it might affect his muslim brothers.


4 posted on 04/23/2010 8:31:09 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: neverdem

If the Senate ratifies Obama’s surrender treaty, we are cooked. Now yet another screwball concession to Putin is revealed.


5 posted on 04/23/2010 8:31:52 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem

Interesting graphic. Take out your atlas and look at the landmasses shown. The landmass on the left is the eastern part of Russia. The Gulf of Anadyr is prominent and you can see the base of the Kamchatka peninsula. The land mass to the right is Alaska. So the launch point is in Russia and the point of impact is in Alaska. An NYT wet dream. Just guessing that the NYT wanted to make Wasilla the target.


6 posted on 04/23/2010 8:33:21 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: neverdem
Why don't we all just get down on bended knee and surrender - that's where this stinking Regime is taking us!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
7 posted on 04/23/2010 8:34:55 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: neverdem

It would be racism to try and kill people with this. We need hugs and love. Just like Bammy says./s


8 posted on 04/23/2010 8:34:57 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: neverdem
"Yet even now, concerns about the technology are so strong that the Obama administration has acceded to a demand by Russia that the United States decommission one nuclear missile for every one of these conventional weapons fielded by the Pentagon."

Obama's response: "Only one?? I was thinking more like five nukes for every one of these new gadgets. We don't like being a military power, you know."

9 posted on 04/23/2010 8:35:07 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: neverdem
Even if the destructive power of such a weapon is akin to a nuke, I gotta believe you could still tell the difference between one of these and a nuke...

Would there still be an EMP? Radioactivity? Mushroom cloud?

10 posted on 04/23/2010 8:42:53 PM PDT by libsrscum (Obama causes cancer.)
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To: libsrscum
What is the nature of the weapon? I think that I remember that it is just a rod of metal that is propelled at such high speeds that it becomes extremely explosive. Correct?
11 posted on 04/23/2010 8:53:16 PM PDT by garjog
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12 posted on 04/23/2010 9:03:12 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: garjog

Thats what I remember too. It was called a kinetic force weapon.


13 posted on 04/23/2010 9:04:32 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: doc1019
What a laugh, to think our gonad deficient president would approve this.

Barry's new excuse: "Putin wouldn't let me!"

14 posted on 04/23/2010 9:05:21 PM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: Candor7; garjog

Two different systems.


15 posted on 04/23/2010 9:07:07 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: KevinDavis

Thanks neverdem.


16 posted on 04/23/2010 9:10:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: doc1019
Dollars to donuts they'll have a "navigational error" and take out the Israeli nuclear reactor.

/sarc>

NO cheers, unfortunately.

17 posted on 04/23/2010 9:23:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 04/23/2010 9:26:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: libsrscum
Even if the destructive power of such a weapon is akin to a nuke, I gotta believe you could still tell the difference between one of these and a nuke...

Yes. Couple of ways. First, the Russians have decent satellites. They'd get a launch warning, see it was only one ICBM. Then after a couple of minutes they'd get a refined launch and impact point prediction. They'd have to ask themselves, would we really be sending a nuke to {where-ever} ???

Or plan B. They know where our land-based missile fields are. Convert those to the conventional ICBMs. The subs and aircraft are much more "survivable" for our nuclear forces. Then simply tell the Russians, the North Dakota fields are conventional, (maybe even let them inspect them to assure themselves), you see something launching out of there, don't sweat it.

Would there still be an EMP? Radioactivity? Mushroom cloud?

EMP, no. Radioactivity, no. These would be conventional, chemical explosives. Mushroom cloud? Maybe a small one - that feature is merely a by product of a large explosion.

19 posted on 04/23/2010 9:35:35 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: libsrscum
Remember this?

The term we used in SAC (back when it still existed)was "Launch on Warning". Hence the caution.....

20 posted on 04/23/2010 10:31:08 PM PDT by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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