Posted on 04/23/2010 6:18:25 PM PDT by bushpilot1
Obama's supporters state there is no record the Founders used Vattel.
The second page shows the addition natural born citizen in 1787, the third page references Vattel.
I don’t understand how vattel applies specifically to the definition of “natural born citizen”
natural born citizen has to be here..it is a matter of time locating it..
Franklin..God governs the affairs of men..
The term ‘Natural Born Citizen’ was first defined in “Law of Nations”:
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it doesn’t. Vattel has no legal force.
The only thing that matters is what laws defined a natural born citizen in 1961.
It really seems completely daunting to them.
SATURDAY, JULY 7, 1798.
Ordered, That it be referred to Messrs. Livermore, Stockton, and Bingham, to consider and report thereon to the Senate.
A motion was made, by Mr. Goodhue, as followeth:
“Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, That the following article be proposed to the legislatures of the several states as an amendment to the constitution of the United States, and, when ratified by three-fourths of the said legislatures, to be valid, to all intents and purposes, as part of the said constitution, viz:
“That (in addition to the other qualifications prescribed by the said constitution,) no person shall be eligible as President or Vice President of the United States, nor shall any person be a Senator or Representative in the Congress of the United States, except a natural born citizen, or unless he shall have been a resident in the United States at the time of the declaration of independence, and shall have continued either to reside within the same or to be employed in its service from that period to the time of his election.”
Ordered, That this motion lie for consideration.
I'm no lawyer, but I play one on FR and Obama still needs 2 citizen parents and has admitted to only one.
While it is all well and good to belittle the birth-certificate controversy, without it we'd know only what the media and Obama himself would tell us about his multiple citizenships, which is nothing. As noted above, we now know Obama, by operation of British and Kenyan law, was a citizen of Kenya (a status that lapsed in 1982, when he turned 21). That's something voters would find relevant, especially when Obama’s shocking 2006 conduct in Kenya is considered. But we don’t know about his Kenyan citizenship because the media thought it was newsworthy. [but because of the birthers]Suborned in the U.S.A. - Andrew C. McCarthy on National Review Online
July 30, 2009
McCarthy later admitted a correction/clarification from Kenyen citizenship, to British ...
As I understand it, Obama's "Kenyan" citizenship (which really is the Brit-lite citizenship you are talking about) is a result of Britain's Nationality Act of 1948. Technically speaking, Barack Obama Sr. was a British overseas subject resident of what was then the Kenyan protectorate, which status passed automatically (by operation of Kenyan law) into Kenyan citizenship when Kenya became independent in late 1963.Re: Re: Re: Andy on the Birth-Certificate Business July 30, 2009
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Great job!
Notice that “children naturally follow the condition of their fathers” in there, too.
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The second section, (see the 4th of September, page 507;) requiring that the President should be a natural-born citizen, &c., and have been resident for fourteen years, and be thirty-five years of age was agreed to, nem. con.
Mr. GERRY. The idea of responsibility in the nomination to offices is chimerical. The President cannot know all characters, and can therefore always plead ignorance.
~~Founders ping!
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