Posted on 04/23/2010 6:01:57 PM PDT by Nachum
“Hopefully, the fall has started.”
If not, I’ll flip ya for the shove!
:)
Zero better stay out of AZ.....he probably could not produce proof of citizenship. Send his ass back to Kenya!
Unfortunately, more people will be hurt by these criminal illegals; there will be more rioting by those La Raza types, and Obama will look more and more anti-American by coming to their aid and comfort, traitor that he is.
Like Lame Cherry posited, if AZ will not put him on the ballot, because he cannot prove he is a natural born citizen, then that makes his candidacy void, because ALL states must join, or he cannot run. Such is the wisdom of the founding fathers, to give state rights rights and power to block a usurper.
We already have, Mr. resident. And commies, socialists, democrat dupes and their lying, do nothing republican partners in crime who willingly provide those enemies within sustenance and means to continue their war on the people of the United States are not part of it.
It must feel good being POTUS and not having to prove who or where you are from, no wonder he is upset, he is afraid someone will actually have the power to demand what HIS credentials are.
Who cares what this phony lying POS thinks, it will change tomorrow.
Tough, Mr. President. This is a STATES RIGHTS issue. You cannot touch it.
This may actually cause a real outright war against illegals and the criminals that are crossing the border to do other business, and I feel Obama will do nothing whatsoever.
And it will become a nationwide rally cry of volunteers to stand guard at our border.
A million armed citizens at our border 24/7. I would gladly join if and when I hear the modern day version of a Paul Revere call.
After all it would also be good real time practice.
My husband who is currently in CA (where Sheriff Joe addressed the enthusiastic citizenry of Orange County) discussed once again, that this would be a tax or fee we would gladly pay. Maybe for those like yourself who volunteer, we could pay a stipend, for standing guard and halting traffic in our stead, until our government earns its keep, or we get trampled in their cross purposes.
The silence from Juan’s re-election camp has been deafening. Is it too cynical to be thinkin’ that the immigration bill’s supporters pushed this through now when they knew McCain couldn’t show his true colors?
I don’t see how a law enforcement officer formulates the probable cause necessary to begin to ascertain if someone is in the state illegally.
How does that happen? Run me through the possible steps. Give me a hypothetical situation.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Strict+Scrutiny+Test
“Strict scrutiny is the most rigorous form of judicial review. The Supreme Court has identified the right to vote, the right to travel, and the right to privacy as fundamental rights worthy of protection by strict scrutiny. In addition, laws and policies that discriminate on the basis of race are categorized as suspect classifications that are presumptively impermissible and subject to strict scrutiny.
Once a court determines that strict scrutiny must be applied, it is presumed that the law or policy is unconstitutional. The government has the burden of proving that its challenged policy is constitutional. To withstand strict scrutiny, the government must show that its policy is necessary to achieve a compelling state interest. If this is proved, the state must then demonstrate that the legislation is narrowly tailored to achieve the intended result.”
I’ll play.
Cop stops a car (for any of 100 different legitimate reasons). The occupants of the car don’t speak English, have no ID and tried to flee.
They were not stopped for being suspicion of being illegal. Their actions after the stop provided evidence to act on.
See how easy that is?
“as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe”
I believe, this is the most critical part of the 0’s statement. “0” is begging for insurrection. He is trying his best to tear this great Nation apart. He would love to place our military, on OUR streets, to restore order. “because the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe,” is “lost”.
You have valid points there, Obama will shed crocodile tears for America.
Its a daily reminder to put in perspective that Obama has been raised his WHOLE life to hate white people, to do whatever it takes to create Communism, and at whatever cost.
And he has a ticking clock, every day some new event or a resurgence of new evidence is putting him on the spot, he knows he has limited time to create a DIVIDED America.
That is the keyword, a DIVIDED America.Much easier to install shill leaders in smaller groups to control and guide the people.
The best thing to happen would be for Obama to call up for the military to arrest Americans that are say being patriotic vigilantes, and the military says NO.
But realistically Obama has no control over the military, he MUST form his own little army, if anything it may just be illegal immigrants being given amnesty but must serve in his army, or prisoners in Federal Prisons, get out early if you join the Brownshirt Brigade.
The clock is ticking down, Obama is getting desperate, he has Blago pulling him into a bad corner currently. What he needs is a diversion, an attempted assassination that only “wounds” him would be perfect.
Cop stops a car for legit reason. Driver refuses to/cannot provide Driver License. Driver gives full name and ask for an attorney. Other occupants remin silent or give only their names as required by AZ law and/or ask for an attorney. They speak Spanish to each other, and say nothing to the cop. They’re all brown skinned and look Mexican.
Where is your probable cause to supect them of being in the country illegally brainiac? Because they speak Spanish? I speak Spanish. I’m Irish. Because they have brown skin? My daughter-in-law has brown skin. She is an American citizen. Because they look Mexican? I have several friends who “look Mexican” who were born in the USA.
Where is your probable cause?
You ain’t playing nothing because you aren’t smart enough to step on the court with me brainiac. The law will never go into effect and will be struck down as unconstitutionally broad.
Pseudo-Conservatives like you give us all a bad name. Read a law book and history of SCOTUS decisons and the US Constitution.
I have lived in AZ for 47 years pal, you ain’t teaching anyone here anything. Get lost.
OK then, Mr. Wizard, how do you propose we keep out the invaders?
I'm an American; I cherish the notion of keeping trespassers and invaders out.
Pleasant little fellow, aren’t you? Congratulations on being a miserable old Spanish speaking fart.
Who said anything about speaking Spanish? Who said anything about Mexicans or ‘brown people’?
You said ‘that according to AZ law. . . ‘, well pal, what they are doing is changing the law? That is still legal, isn’t it?
If pulled over for a violation and they attempt to flee (in my scenario), there is probable cause to believe that something isn’t right. To release people who have not ID’d themselves, won’t tell you anything, but could be guilty of some crime (why else would they flee a traffic stop?) is insane.
I did not read the thread, I only saw that post that I responded to. Are you a defense attorney? Do you think that there is a problem with illegals? Do you want to see a solution to the problem?
I have always opposed a national ID card, but my contention is that the Feds want the illegal invader problem to be so bad that we will demand such a card.
Where is your probable cause that that has anything to do with them being in the country illegally? Maybe they are wanted on an outstanding warrant, maybe they are holding drugs. How do you get to the probable cause that they are in the country illegally?
They can just give their name, as required by law and then go silent and/or ask for an attorney. You cannot get to probable cause unless you base it on skin color, language, or racial/ethnic appearance. TOTALLY unconstitutional.
Works for me.
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