Retired Army general: Lt. Col. Lakin has 'valid point'

World Net Daily ^ | April 23, 2010 | Chelsea Schilling

[Smokeyblue]

A retired Army general and national security policy expert says Lt. Col. Terry Lakin has "a valid point" and should use his "right to discovery" to force the Obama administration to produce proof of his natural-born citizenship status.

In an interview with Evil Conservative Radio, Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely said, "I think many in the military – and many out of the military – question the natural-birth status of Barack Obama. … I'm not convinced that he is [a natural-born citizen]."

Vallely, CEO of Stand Up America U.S., graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and was commissioned in the Army in 1961, serving 32 years.

He said he inspected his own long-form birth certificate, and it contains a doctor's name, date and location of birth.

"But he's never been able to produce that," he said of Obama. "His unwillingness to do it also concerns me. I think Lt. Col. Lakin has a valid point. … He refuses to produce a birth certificate that states the witnessing of the birth, the date and who is the doctor. We don't know why he won't come out with that."

[1234]

... in lawsuits presently making their way up through the court system.

thought I had read something about this somewhere... TX for reply.

[Beckwith]

I am glad that was your last post. That gives me last word:

This is the law that bestows citizenship on McCain:

Sec. 303. [8 U.S.C. 1403] Persons born in the Canal Zone or the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this Act, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

John McCain is a “statutory” citizen, not a “natural born” citizen, and “at birth” was a citizen of the US of A, and the Republic of Panama — that’s just a fact of life — as documented by his birth certificate.

You are a very emotional person.

[Boardwalk]

McCain spent a few just born waking moments out of the USA. 0bama spent quite some time studying the koran outside the USA and his parents were radicals bent on socializing the earth, not military officers. Yet, McCain was likely brainwashed during his captivity so we can’t trust him either.

[cvq3842]

Interesting points. No, political views are not passed “in the blood,” I agree.

I’m just trying to do what many are doing - figure out an explanation for Obama’s behavior. It might indeed be the “foreign student” issue.

[cvq3842]

I understand your point. But for a candidate who, much more than most, made his “heritage” an issue, it would certainly be a major blow to his credibility. But with such a biased media in place, would it be worth all this time and effort?

Again, I understand what you are saying. All we can do is speculate, given Obama’s secrecy. That, far more than anything else, is evidence that there is a huge problem.

[sodpoodle]

****All we can do is speculate, given Obama’s secrecy. That, far more than anything else, is evidence that there is a huge problem.****

Precisely! Other speculations, i.e.Perhaps Stanley Dunham miscarried and subsequently fostered an orphaned child and never gave birth, naturally or by C-Section, anywhere to BO?

[Beckwith]

McCain was likely brainwashed during his captivity so we can’t trust him either.

That's just silly.

The reason not to trust McCain is the deal that he made with the Democratic leaders in the Senate, to give Obama a free pass.

There would be no talk of the communist Frank Marshall Davis; the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, and the rest of the other dirtbags that have surrounded Obama since the age of 12.

There would be no talk of Obama's membership in the socialist New Party. There would be no talk of Obama's long relationship with ACORN and SEIU. There would be no talk of Obama's missing bona fides. There would be no talk of Obama's eligibility.

In return, the honorable John McCain, was blessed as a "natural born" citizen by his political enemies 6 months before the election of 2008.

[Beckwith]

It's possible, but it wouldn't show that you were born in Hawaii, as Obama's certificate plainly does.

Not a certificate. It's a certification. And it's been demonstrated to be counterfeit by half a dozen qualified examiners.

So, it doesn't matter what that document says, since the document is bogus.

[Beckwith]

I believe John McCain was a natural born citizen

Prove it.

Where is your documentation?

[Beckwith]

...an American citizen wife while on station in Panama.

The admiral may have been "on station" in the Panama Canal Zone, but McCain's mom was "on staion" at the Colon Hospital, located at Avenida Melendez and 2nd Street, Manzanillo Island, City of Colon, Republic of Panama.

[mkjessup]

If Obama was required to produce anything (and this is highly unlikely), the COLB he's already shown would be sufficient.

You mean the fraudulent counterfeit that was proven to be worthless?

Tell us another joke, Sparky.

[RipSawyer]

He is not a natural born citizen regardless of where he was born unless he is lying about who his father is. There is ample evidence of the meaning of natural born at the time the constitution was written and no person born to a father who was NOT an American citizen was considered a natural born citizen.

[RipSawyer]

If his father is as claimed it would make no difference, the son of a foreign national who is NOT an American citizen is not a NATURAL BORN citizen, although he MAY be a citizen.

[Kleon]

You mean the fraudulent counterfeit that was proven to be worthless?

Not by any credible experts.

[RipSawyer]

“To date, the courts and Congress have supported the other one.”
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Alas, it is all too true that the courts and congress have approved of many things clearly in conflict with the constitution and the intent of the founders. If congress and the courts could be depended upon it would not matter nearly so much who is president.

[mkjessup]

Thanks for confirming that you don’t have a clue.

[bgill]

Hawaii is refusing to provide index data information on names associated with Obama: Obama, Soetoro, Sutoro, Dunham, and others. DOH is required by law to make index data available to the public - after all, the public is paying for it! Hawaii is in violation of its own open records law.

Hawaii is refusing to provide index data information on names associated with Obama: Obama, Soetoro, Sutoro, Dunham, and others. DOH is required by law to make index data available to the public - after all, the public is paying for it! Hawaii is in violation of its own open records law.

Hawaii is refusing to provide index data information on names associated with Obama: Obama, Soetoro, Sutoro, Dunham, and others. DOH is required by law to make index data available to the public - after all, the public is paying for it! Hawaii is in violation of its own open records law.

Just thought this needed to be repeated, and repeated, and repeated.

[gotaz]

My daughter was born in Yokosuka, Japan (I was acitve duty military). She has a notification of citizenship birth abroad for a birth certificate issued from the embassy in Tokyo. When my husband adopted her, Virgina issued a short form (COLB) birth certificate that states clearly on the bottom that this birth certificate does not infer citizenship. I have to keep both documents to ensure there is no confusion at a later date. This is why I want to see what President Obama used for school, SSN, passport, etc.... It isn’t asking a whole lot really.

[Boardwalk]

It is not silly that McCain is a brainwashed wreck. That is why the liberal media served us up John McCain on a platter to be our nominee...they knew he hade eligibility issues, just like the chosen 0ne, and they knew that McCain would cave to their demands to give 0bama a free pass...and McCain was conditioned to do so because of his “torture” experiences.

[Kleon]

Thanks for confirming that you don’t have a clue.

Sorry, but if you say something has been "proven," there has to be at least some credible source that's confirmed it. In this case there are none.