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Arizona House OKs Birther Bill
WND ^ | 4-10-10

Posted on 04/20/2010 12:47:47 AM PDT by hope

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To: curiosity
The only people who bothered to go inspect it were staff from Factcheck.com

Where do you Obots come from?

Are you suggesting that if I called FactCheck.org and asked to personally inspect Obama's bogus COLB, they would present it for inspection? If you are, then you're clearly on drugs.

That document is more tightly held that the founding documents.

By the way, let me introduce you to the two, completely unqualified, partisans who "certified" Obama.

The people who gave us Obama


81 posted on 04/20/2010 9:28:01 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: hope

Good deal.


82 posted on 04/20/2010 9:29:58 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: hope
For the record...

I think this is an excellent idea. I hope Texas does something similar.

83 posted on 04/20/2010 9:35:18 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man
This “millions spent by Obama’s lawyers” is just another self perpetuating birther myth. There is no proof.

Oh, Really? No proof, huh?

Read this from the Federal Elections Commission, and weep Obama-lover -- that's $2,161,155.11 -- to prevent the American People from seeing a "birth certificate."

Obama Campaign disbursements to Perkins Coie


84 posted on 04/20/2010 9:35:45 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith; Darkwolf377

I thought Darkwolf was calling Glenn Beck a birther, along with Obama and all the others who want this issue to go away without showing the long form. I guess I need to go back and re-read his post.


85 posted on 04/20/2010 9:40:53 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Now, knock McLame out of the park.

Did you read where McLame has suddenly got religion on tough border control? Liar.

86 posted on 04/20/2010 9:41:21 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: edge919
Obama doesn't fit the Wong Kim Ark definition of natural born citizen.

Yes he does. You obviously have not read the case.

87 posted on 04/20/2010 9:48:53 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Beckwith
All that proves is the the campaign had legal fees, and they used Perkins Cole. You have absolutely no proof that a dime of that money was spent on birther lawsuits.
88 posted on 04/20/2010 9:50:22 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Beckwith
Are you suggesting that if I called FactCheck.org and asked to personally inspect Obama's bogus COLB, they would present it for inspection?

No, that's not what I'm suggesting. If you want to know what I am suggesting, go read my post again.

89 posted on 04/20/2010 9:51:31 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Beckwith
If Obama was adopted in Indonesia, he would have had six months -- starting on his 18th birthday -- to re-affirm his US citizenship.

That is simply not true.

His adoption is almost certain (see the language in the divorce records).

I saw them. As far as I can tell they are silent on the matter. What makes you think they are definitive proof?

91 posted on 04/20/2010 9:54:56 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I’ve read the case and cited the exact definition several time from the case. I stand by my previous statement.


92 posted on 04/20/2010 10:03:29 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Darkwolf377

“If you could end all of this by simply showing some papers, why don’t you?”

If he has a legit BC, then he has no respect for the American people, military, or the constitution. Just being a scumbag.


93 posted on 04/20/2010 10:06:49 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Beckwith
Unless I'm missing something... In the PDF, you set up the premise that Bob Bauer was hired by Obama as a "birther lawyer".

According to your PDF, Bauers' law firm, Perkins Coie, received payments from "Obama for America".

It is here that you decide, without proof, what those payments were for. You even admit that the law firm was working to defend Obama from legal entanglements with Rod Blagojevich.

There is absolutely no proof from the document you created that shows how the lawyers hours were broken down by case.

So unless you can get documents from the law firm that shows how the lawyers billed their hours to what case...it is speculation.

94 posted on 04/20/2010 10:10:54 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: PA-RIVER
If he has a legit BC, then he has no respect for the American people, military, or the constitution. Just being a scumbag.

Plus the people who work for the Department of Health in Hawaii. He's forced them to make excuses and carry water for him over the last 677 days that the original birth certificate has been held hostage.

95 posted on 04/20/2010 10:11:36 AM PDT by edge919
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To: curiosity
Yes he does. You obviously have not read the case.

No it does not.

96 posted on 04/20/2010 10:12:51 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: edge919
Somehow you missed this passage:

"It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

"III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."

97 posted on 04/20/2010 10:21:18 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Red Steel
Yes it does. See post 97.

But of course, you already have seen that passage in the SCOTUS opinion, so I predict you will continue to ignore it, or dismiss it as dicta, or impugn the character of Justice Gray, or whatever is the birther response de jur.

98 posted on 04/20/2010 10:26:18 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Darkwolf377

“If you could end all of this by simply showing some papers, why don’t you?”

Perhaps because he DOES NOT have the “papers” ??

(simplest answer is the best).


99 posted on 04/20/2010 10:28:13 AM PDT by Sloane_Ranger
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To: curiosity; edge919
Justice Gray also cited Binney who made a direct comparision between only native born citizens versus natural born citizens. To quote:


"Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory,...and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, "if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle." It can hardly be denied that an alien is completely subject to the political jurisdiction of the country in which he resides -- seeing that, as said by Mr. Webster, when Secretary of State, in his Report to the President on Thrasher's Case in 1851, and since repeated by this court,...


Justice Gray shows us that Wong ARK would only be native born and NOT natural born. Gray did not dare go as far to call Ark a natural born citizen.

100 posted on 04/20/2010 10:40:07 AM PDT by Red Steel
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