Posted on 04/20/2010 12:47:47 AM PDT by hope
House votes to check candidates' citizenship Updated: Monday, 19 Apr 2010, 4:45 PM MDT Published : Monday, 19 Apr 2010, 4:44 PM MDT
PHOENIX (AP) -- The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for re-election.
The House voted 31-22 to add the provision to a separate bill. The measure still faces a formal vote.
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It most likely has nothing to do with the color or the paper and everything to do with the quality of the light. It is explained by color theory
Light generates the color: Colors are the children of light, and light is their mother. An object does not have any color in itself. A red object looks red because the molecule constituting its surface absorbs all other colors of light, and reflects only red.
If you are really interested you might want to read Basic Principles of Color Theory
http://web.missouri.edu/~leongl/Classes/Instructional%20Aid/ColorTheory.html
Sorry, alleged live birth certificate is a fraud.
If the documents allged to prove Onada’s native birth, then why not offer them up for testing by an open judicial process. If they are real, presto, the issue is put to rest. I would be delighted whatever the outcome.
Besides which, Onada’s own parents have been quoted as saying the man is Kenyon born.
Exactly how does that work?
Besides which, Onada’s own parents have been quoted as saying the man is Kenyon born.
What? When did that happen?
It’s called “Friend of the Court Brief”.
So Obama should submit his birth certificate for examination in a proceeding where the plaintiff has no standing to begin with? Or in this case, where the military is initiating the proceeding and Obama's legitimate holding of the office of president is not at issue, you're suggesting that Obama intervene by presenting his birth certificate? I'm not sure that either situation is an appropriate venue.
Would the court even accept such a “Friend of the Court Brief”? Could they rightfully accept it?
I suspect a democratjudge would refuse to act on it. But there are still courts in this country that are not political organs of the demrat party.
Once again people are being side tracked by minutia. The point is, no one, except Fukino, has seen this piece of paper. I’m sure that if I tried to estabish residency or obtain a US passport citing a document someone is alleged to have seen I would have no problem.
Only a very desperate person would float this fairy tale.
Once again people are being side tracked by minutia. The point is, no one, except Fukino, has seen this piece of paper. I’m sure that if I tried to estabish residency or obtain a US passport citing a document someone is alleged to have seen I would have no problem.
Only a very desperate person would float this fairy tale. The simple facts are these:
1. Onada has never produced a credible proof of US birth document. Even the forgeries did not meet the standard.
2. Onada’s family is on record saying he was born in Kenya.
3. Other stories, written about Onada prior to his finagling his way onto the Demrat tickiet for president, also report that he is Kenyon born.
Yes, and many of those judges have had birther cases brought before them and dismissed them for lack of standing.
Birthers don't need sympathetic judges, they need better lawyers.
It is interesting to me that there seem to be three things going on with respect to the court challenges to The Marxixt Onada’s presidential eligibility.
The first, is a fear of being called a racist by the judiciary in it takes on the case. The second thing is that hearing the case, would settle the issue once and for all. That would clear the air so we can al move on.
A third thing that is going on, IMHO, is a fear by the judiciary to even open the can of worms. What would happen if Onada could not establish his birth country? Would he leave quietly. Or will he stir the race pot in an attept to cling to office? What will the majority of Americans be prepared to do if he refuses to step aside?
It may be, to avoid a race war (which I don’t think is inevitable on a large scale), the country simply allows him to sit it out until the next election. If it were me, I would only allow that if Onada agrees to be silent—specifically I mean that he be proscribed from advancing his political agenda.
I expect more states will follow Arizona’s lead and require credible country of birth proof for a candidate to be on a US predsidential ballot in that state. This should prevent the demrat shananigans that occured in the 2009 elections. In the past, the political parties self vetted their candidate. Those were the days when people were Americans who supported the Constitution and capitalism. The media backed up that vetting by doing presidentail bios and fact checking—including birth certificated.
Demrat Party leadership has moved a long way from that concept. It wants America to be like any Marxist dictstorship you can name.
First, birthers have to bring the courts a good case they can hear.
What would happen if Onada could not establish his birth country?
And if Obama presents his valid long form birth certificate, complete with seal and signatures, proving he was born in Hawaii, will birthers be able to move on?
I expect more states will follow Arizona’s lead and require credible country of birth proof for a candidate to be on a US predsidential ballot in that state.
That is the proper way to go in the future.
The media backed up that vetting by doing presidentail bios and fact checking—including birth certificated.
Really? I'm old and don't recall the media doing any birth certificate presenting or checking for presidential candidates.
Believe it or not my ideal outcome is that Onada finally cough up a credible record of his birth and he is a native born American. My expectation that will ever happen is zero, since he has (IMHO) failed to produce such a document up to now. There can only two reasons for that. There is no document. Or, if there is, it will prove he is Kenyon born.
I would imagine that even if he did produce a credible birth record establishing his presidency eligibility there will always be some who can’t let it go. But Onada will have brought that on himself.
I was a journalist back in the day before a journalist’s politics were allowed to color the straight news stories he/she wrote. Believe me, I would have checked presidential candidate birth certificates just as a matter of routine. No big deal would be made of it, it was just doing the job.
I believe the demrats, along with their media accomplices, knew this was a problem a long time ago. Perhaps as long ago as when they first started grooming The Marxist Onada for the presidential run. Remember back when the issue first became public:
1. The first demrat response was to challenge McCain’s citizenship because he was born in a military hospital in Panama. Gotcha, they said. Only problem McCain was born in a US military hospital which is considered US soil. Hence, McCain is a native born American IAW our Constitution. The ploy did not work.
2. A newspaper story is then floated in which a Hawaiian gov’t bureaucrat, Fujiama I think, is quoted as having seen the birth certificate. That alleged document is never included in the story. Upshot: The ploy did not work.
3. Demrats fall back on Alinsky politics of personal and group destruction tactics. The media launch a campaign to discredit the people demanding to see a credible birth record. Exactly what they are doing to Tea Partiers. All these people are right wing extremist kooks. People like Bob Beckall, a demrat political operative, sneeringly repeat the media nonsense. Ploy does not work.
4. Several documents appear from nowhere which the demrats insist that we accept as credible proof of Onada’s birth country. Those documents are fraudulent in and of themselves. Nor do they even meet the standard for birth country proof.
And that’s where we are today.
Experience has taught me that there is a third reason; no amount of evidence will be enough for those who are convinced of the rightness of their cause. No matter how many times the bar is met, there will always be a reason to raise it yet again.
Believe me, I would have checked presidential candidate birth certificates just as a matter of routine. No big deal would be made of it, it was just doing the job.
You you would have overcome the fact that you had no legal right to a candidates birth certificate to check, how?
I simply would have asked to see the candidate’s birth certificate. A candidate with nothing to hide would be happy to show it to me. If the candidate failed to produce it, I would simply state that in my story and let readers draw their own conclusions.
We keep going back and forth here. Have you ever asked yourself why this situation has not happened ever in any other presidential election? I would appreciate it if you would try to work out the answer before you throw the question back to me.
Specifically, what situation?
A man is sitting in the WH who has not proven he is a native born American.
You haven’t provided one meaningful fact that supports your view. The only thing you’ve done is regurgitate Onada propaganda machine talking points.
It was wonderful posting with you. I think it’s time we moved on.
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