Posted on 04/18/2010 12:46:22 AM PDT by thouworm
This is a question that should be asked more often:
"Moshe Ya’alon, a former Israel Defense Forces general who now serves as Benjamin Netanyahu’s strategic affairs minister, posed the following query in an interview published in the Jerusalem Post:
“If we are talking about coexistence and peace, why the [Palestinian] insistence that the territory they receive be ethnically cleansed of Jews? Why do those areas have to be Judenrein? Don’t Arabs live here, in the Negev and the Galilee? Why isn’t that part of our public discussion? Why doesn’t that scream to the heavens?”"
"Moshe Ya’alon, a former Israel Defense Forces general who now serves as Benjamin Netanyahu’s strategic affairs minister, posed the following query in an interview published in the Jerusalem Post:
“If we are talking about coexistence and peace, why the [Palestinian] insistence that the territory they receive be ethnically cleansed of Jews? Why do those areas have to be Judenrein? Don’t Arabs live here, in the Negev and the Galilee? Why isn’t that part of our public discussion? Why doesn’t that scream to the heavens?”"
As Jonathan Tobin points out, the official goal of the Middle East "peace process" is a "two-state solution", in one of which Muslims live alongside Jews and have voting rights and representation in the legislature, while in the other there are no Jews at all and, as in "moderate" Jordan, to sell your house to a Jew is a crime punishable by death. There goes the neighborhood, right? When the western campus left holds its annual "Israeli Apartheid Week", presumably it's in philosophical support of the notion that you don't need to run an "apartheid" system if you just get rid of everyone who's not like you.
If Muslims are so revolted by Jews that they cannot tolerate any living among them, well, they're free to believe what they want. What is less understandable is the present position of the United States government. The President and his Secretary of State have made it very clear that they regard a few dozen housing units in Jerusalem as a far greater threat to Middle East peace than the Iranian nuclear program. Why is it in the interest of the United States to validate, enthusiastically, the most explicit and crudest bigotry of the Palestinian "cause"?
Steyn quotes this article by Jonathan Tobin:
Why No Jews in a Palestinian State?
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/tobin/279091
The reason why Palestinians insist that all Jews must leave their future state is because they do not recognize the legitimacy of Israel or the Jewish presence anywhere in the land. And Palestinian political culture is so steeped in violence and hatred of Jews and Israel that it is literally impossible to believe that Jews, even if they behaved like Quakers, could live in a Palestinian state.
It’s perfectly acceptable for Arabs to have a state with no Jews, and the liberals will work hard towards that goal. But if the Jewish state were to expel all the Arabs...well, that would be apartheid.
Liberal justice.
I think a Palestinian, if you could actually get one to engage in reasonable conversation, would give the excuse that Jews are oppressors. It’s unreasonable to ask Palestinians to share land with oppressors.
But of course we know the real reason why they won’t share land with the Jews, don’t we. It’s about Islam and hate.
My point was that I don’t give a heck whatever you are talking about. If it is a Jewish thing, then screw you.
My job is to protect women, as an American then I hope you join me.
As a Texan, then I wonder what the heck you meant?
I’m not sure why you’re replying to me or what you mean.
My point was that even though our leaders will never admit it, the reason why the Palestinians want the territories purged (of Jews) is obvious. Many people have fallen for the big lie:
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Big_Lie
What are some of the big lies concerning Palestinians:
#1 Islam is a religion of peace.
#2 The Palestinians are negotiating in good faith.
#3 Jews are oppressors.
#4 Palestinians can be appeased enough to leave Jews alone.
Nearly every evil thing attributed to the Jews, in fact, applies to the Palestinians.
Jews expelled from Arab countries accuse Arab regimes of ethnic cleansing
Jerusalem Post ^ | Jun. 25, 2003 | JENNY HAZAN AND GREER FAY CASHMAN
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:16:43 AM by yonif
EXCERPT:
Menuchum is one of over 850,000 Jews who have been displaced from Arab countries since 1948, according to the JJAC report which states that 97% of Jews from Arab lands have left their countries of origin, leaving a mere 8,000-member population behind.
“This report presents a damning indictment of the Arab world for the mass violations of human rights and for the coordinated, repressive measures to drive out their Jewish populations or to hold them as political hostages,” said Executive Director of JJAC, Stanley Urman, who listed intimidation, beating, persecution, pogroms and the enactment of Nuremberg-type laws among the State-sanctioned tactics perpetrated by the governments of Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Yemen, Aden, Syria and Lebanon.
“It presents a damning indictment of the international community, for its disproportionate and favorable treatment towards Palestinian refugees and their failure to respond to the plight of Jewish refugees,” he said, referring to the fact that Israel has become a safe-haven for over 600,000 Jewish refugees.
“The time has come to restore the plight and the truth and the justice of Jewish refugees from Arab lands to the Middle East narrative from which they have been expunged and eclipsed,” added Member of Parliament of Canada and Honorary JJAC Chairman, Professor Irwin Cotler, who charged that Arab regimes were guilty of “a pattern of ethnic cleansing” and “criminal conspiracy in dealing with their native Jewish populations.
“Any narrative of the Middle East including the Roadmap that does not include justice for Jewish refugees from Arab lands, is a case study in Middle East revisionism. It’s an assault on truth and memory and justice,” said Cotler, who accused the United Nations of singling out Israel for differential and discriminatory treatment in the international arena.
“Since 1947, there have been some 687 resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly, which have dealt with the Arab-Israeli conflict,” explained Cotler. “101 of those resolutions dealt with the question of refugees. All 101 dealt with Palestinian refugees only. Not one resolution dealt with the issue of Jewish refugees from Arab lands.”
There would not be an Arab refugee problem if the Arabs had not rejected the UN partition plan, he said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/935409/posts
Roughly half of Israel’s 5 million Jews are Jewish refugees from Arab countries or their descendants, and they received no humanitarian aid from the United Nations. To this day, the Arab states have refused to pay any compensation to the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were forced to abandon their property before fleeing their homelands. Israel has consequently maintained that any agreement to compensate the Palestinian refugees must also include Arab compensation for Jewish refugees.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/jewref.html
His nickname is “Yogi” in Israel and after listening to him give a speech to us in November while in Israel the Palestians better pray he is not the one Israel picks to solve the problem. The guy is great!
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"When the western campus left holds its annual "Israeli Apartheid Week", presumably it's in philosophical support of the notion that you don't need to run an "apartheid" system if you just get rid of everyone who's not like you."
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I had never heard of Israeli Apartheid Week. After I posted the thread, I listened to an interview with an Iraeli who described the annual "hatefest." (my word, not his). This is from his website.
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Every March, extremists converge on campuses across the country. For a week or two, they strive to sow divisions, encourage prejudice, and incite hostility.
They come as part of "Israeli Apartheid Week," a series of lectures, exhibits and events that single out Israel for fierce attack. Students are told the Jewish state is, by nature, a racist, colonial and oppressive state. They are told Israel should be boycotted, and even destroyed. They are told this by ideologues who distort facts about the country while ignoring genuine oppression in the Middle East and across the world.
One need look no further than the event's title to understand its malignant nature. The canard that Israel is an apartheid state is an assault on the country's very legitimacy. South Africa's racist, apartheid regime was rightfully dismantled, and this campaign seeks absurdly to cast Israel — the Middle East's most progressive state and only liberal democracy — as being guilty of similar policies and equally deserving to be dismantled.
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In the interview he countered the ridiculous assertion with the following facts, which also can be found on the website:
There is a basic fact about Israel that can't be denied by any honest observer, whether pro-Israel, pro-Palestinian, pro-both, or altogether indifferent.
As philosophy professor Bernard Harrison notes, "Israel is in fact, for better or worse, almost a textbook example of a multicultural society."
And that truth by itself exposes claims about supposed "Israeli Apartheid" as laughable and — it's hard to think of a diplomatic way to put it — a big lie.
Israeli citizens are white, black and everything in between; they include Arabs and Jews; Muslims, Christians, agnostics and atheists; they are Kurdish, Ethiopian, Russian, Polish, Iraqi, Yemenite and more. And every Israeli citizen can vote, participate in political life, and share beaches, bars and park benches.
Twenty percent of Israeli citizens are Arab. Not only do they vote in Israeli elections, but they also serve in the country's legislature (or Knesset), government, courts and army.
Arab Knesset members include those who represent mainstream Zionism parties, such as Kadima's Majalli Whbee and Likud's Ayoob Kara. But harsh critics of the state are also represented. Knesset member Ahmad Tibi, for example, was once an advisor to the late-Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat.
Muslim-Arab Raleb Majadele and Druze-Arab Salah Tarif were both former Knesset members for the mainstream Labor party, and both have served as ministers in the Israeli government. (As feminst activist and self-described Muslim refusnik Irshad Manji once rhetorically asked in an Op-Ed criticizing the Apartheid canard, "Would Arabs even be eligible for election if they squirmed under the thumb of apartheid?")
Christian-Arab Salim Joubran is an Israeli judge with a permanent position on the country's Supreme Court. Before Joubran's appointment, Muslim-Arab Abdel Rahman Zuabi had served as a Supreme Court Justice.
And Arabs, such as Yusef Mishlav, have served at the highest levels of Israel's army.
The "apartheid week" logo overlays the colors of the Palestinian flag on a map that includes all of Israel, in line with participants' goal of eliminating the Jewish state.
The week of March 1 is the week for indoctrinating students to hate Israel. Israel's most virulent adversaries will concentrate their attention on campuses from San Francisco to New York, and Edmonton to Atlanta, spreading falsehoods and encouraging boycott of the Jewish state, or even its destruction. Students will be told that the Jewish state is, by nature, a racist, colonial and oppressive state. They will be told this by activists who ignore genuine racism and oppression by Israel's neighbors. It is time for "Israeli Apartheid Week."
Who speaks at these events?
Hezbollah supporter Norman Finkelstein. One need not guess what he will say. In an interview in the Teheran Times, Finkelstein called Israel a "vandal state," an "insane state," a "lunatic state" and a "terrorist state." And those were the nicer things he had to say about the country. He also referred to the Jewish state as a "satanic state" from "the boils of hell" which "is committing a holocaust in Gaza."
Omar Barghouti, a featured speaker during Apartheid Week 2009, doesn't bother to hide that his goal is to rewind history by returning the Jewish people to the dark era in which being a Jew meant being an ethnic minority. With chilling frankness, Barghouti admits that he seeks to replace Israel with what he describes as "a unitary state, where, by definition, Jews will be a minority."
Apartheid Week 2009 speaker Ronnie Kasrils, who has argued that Israelis are "baby killers" that "behav[e] like Nazis."
CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America)
The speakers at “Israeli Apartheid Week” get to exercise their right of free speech, while....
The MSU Plot to Silence Israel’s Ambassador
IPT News
April 7, 2010
Despite claims to the contrary, internal emails from the University of California, Irvine’s Muslim Student Union (MSU) show that the group orchestrated the repeated disruptions of a speech given on campus by Israeli ambassador Michael Oren February 8.
A copy of the email exchanges was sent anonymously to school and local law enforcement officials, who are investigating whether students violated conduct codes or criminal laws, respectively, in deliberately disrupting an invited guest speaker at the school.
The emails include a “game plan,” which details the disruption plan down to where the student disruptors would sit, how they would communicate with each other via text messaging, and how to act if campus police began to arrest students.
The Investigative Project on Terrorism also received a copy of the packet sent to UCI officials.
During his speech, Oren was interrupted more than a dozen times by students who stood up and shouted that he was a murderer and a war criminal. He left the stage for about 20 minutes before order was restored and he was able to continue his remarks.
Prior to the speech, MSU officials told UCI administrators that they were not planning any disruptions before the speech. Police arrested 11 students during the event, eight from UC Irvine and three from UC Riverside.
Afterward, numerous press accounts included MSU denials that the disruptions were orchestrated.
“It was not put on by the MSU, but rather by students acting on their own,” chapter spokeswoman Hadeer Soliman told the Los Angeles Times. She repeated the claim in a column in UCI’s student newspaper.
On a website created to support the arrested students, MSU President Mohamed Abdelgany wrote that “all of my actions on Monday were done out of my own individual accord and were not on behalf of the Muslim Student Union or any other organization at UC Irvine.”
As the now public emails make clear, these denials were an attempt to cover up the truth about MSU’s behind-the-scenes attempt to shout down a visiting diplomat. A decision to disrupt the event had been made at an MSU board meeting days before the speech, the records show.
“We’ve already discussed the different options in the GA (general assembly) meeting and we took a vote,” a February 4 email to the MSU board said. “So now that we have voted on one method of action, we all go through this together, insha’Allah ta’ala together as one MSU … one Ummah.” [Emphasis original]
Read more at: http://www.investigativeproject.org/1892/the-msu-plot-to-silence-israels-ambassador
The discriminatory document Apartheid Week participants must agree to is entitled the "Basis of Unity for Israeli Apartheid Week International Coordination." That agreement calls on people to oppose Jewish and Israeli nationalism, or Zionism, because they claim "it inherently discriminates against those who are not Jewish." (There isn't the slightest indication of concern about Irish nationalism inherently discriminating against those who are not Irish, Greek nationalism discriminating against non-Greeks, Finish nationalism privileging Finns, Saudi nationalism discriminating against non-Saudis and so on.)
Meanwhile, in dramatic contrast with Apartheid Week's hostility toward self-determination for the Jewish people, the Basis of Unity explicitly supports calls for "the Palestinian people's inalienable right to self-determination."
It should be noted that there are many well-intentioned people, including in Israel, who support Palestinian self-determination. It's when this support is coupled with the denial of an equal right for the long-persecuted Jewish people that the ideology becomes one of rejectionism and discrimination.
The Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week 2010
Mark your calendars - the 6th International Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) will take place across the globe from from the 1st to the 14th of March 2010!
Since it was first launched in 2005, IAW has grown to become one of the most important global events in the Palestine solidarity calendar. Last year, more than 40 cities around the world participated in the week's activities,
History of Israeli Apartheid Week
Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) is an international series of events held in cities and campuses across the globe. IAW will be running for the sixth consecutive year in 2010, with events taking place between March 1-14 all over the world. The week’s events will include lectures, multimedia events, cultural performance, film screenings, demonstrations, and more.
The past few years have seen a sharp increase of literature and analysis that has sought to document and challenge Israeli apartheid, including reports issued by major international bodies and human rights organizations and findings published by political leaders, thinkers, academics, and activists. Many of these efforts have highlighted the role that could be played by people and governments across the world in providing solidarity with the Palestinian struggle by exerting urgent pressure on Israel to alter its current structure and practices as an apartheid state.
Prominent Palestinians, Jewish anti-Zionists, and South Africans have been at the forefront of this struggle. At the same time, an international divestment campaign has gained momentum in response to a statement issued in July 2005 by over 170 Palestinian civil society organizations calling for boycotts, divestments and sanctions (BDS) against apartheid Israel. Important gains have recently been made in this campaign in countries like South Africa , the United Kingdom , Canada and the United States.
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Last year, more than 40 cities around the world participated in the week's activities:
Cities
* Al Quds
* Amsterdam
* Bard (NY)
* Beirut
* Berkeley
* Bethlehem
* Bil'in
* Bogota
* Bologna
* Boston
* Cape Town
* Caracas
* Chicago
* Connecticut
* Duluth
* Dundee
* Durban
* Eastern Cape
* Edinburgh
* Edmonton
* Gaza
* Glasgow
* Guelph
* Hamilton
* Houston
* Ireland
* Jenin
* Johannesburg
* Kingston
* London (ON)
* London (UK)
* Madrid
* Melbourne
* Minneapolis/St.Paul
* Montréal
* Nablus
* New York City
* Nil'in
* Ottawa
* Oxford
* Peterborough
* Pisa
* Pretoria
* Providence
* Puebla
* Roma
* San Francisco
* Seattle
* Sudbury
* Tilburg
* Toronto
* Truro (CA)
* Utrecht
* Vancouver
* Waterloo
* Winnipeg
Canadian Leaders (and politicians) Standing Tall Against Israel Apartheid Week
March 4, 2010 - by Barbara Kay
In late February the province of Ontario’s legislature issued a denunciation of IAW. Progressive Conservative party legislator Peter Shurman, its promoter, stated:
"The term Israeli Apartheid Week incites hatred against Israel, a democratic state that respects the rule of law and human rights, and the use of the word “apartheid” in this context diminishes the suffering of those who were victims of a true apartheid regime in South Africa.
The motion received unanimous support from all sitting members of the provincial parliament (MPPs), including — and this surprised many Canadians — members of the staunchly socialist New Democratic Party (NDP), perennial scourge of the powerful and unconditionally supportive shoulder to the “oppressed,” including well-known terror-dealing grievance collectors.
The NDP’s elected members’ views on the Middle East range from merely hostile to virulently anti-Israel. So if provincial NDPers felt free to join in this motion, then the denunciation was not an aberration, but an indicator that the times they are a-changin’ in Ontario, Canada’s bellwether province.
In May, the Liberal premier of Ontario, Dalton McGuinty, will lead a trade mission to Israel, the first Ontario leader to do so since 1998, a move that would have been unthinkable even a few years ago for any politician in that ultra-liberal province.
Not to be outdone, Michael Ignatieff, leader of the federal Liberal Party, the official government opposition, declared that IAW “should be condemned unequivocally and absolutely.”
Perhaps all these gestures reflect a cascade phenomenon rolling down from the summit. Last week in Ottawa, the nation’s capitol, Conservative MP Tim Uppal affirmed that he would be introducing a motion declaring “that this House considers itself to be a friend of the State of Israel; that this House is concerned about expressions of anti-Semitism under the guise of ‘Israel Apartheid Week’; and that this House explicitly condemns any action in Canada as well as internationally that would equate the rejected and racist policy of apartheid.”
To cap it all, on February 12, in connection with the ominous approach of Iran’s nuclear weaponization, Junior Foreign Affairs Minister Peter Kent stated: “Prime Minister Harper has made it quite clear for some time now and has regularly stated that an attack on Israel would be considered an attack on Canada.” In terms of support for Israel, it doesn’t get friendlier than that.
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