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To: nuke rocketeer

...and you ought to educate yourself. AFAIK, nobody disputes Obama’s American citizenship—what is in doubt is whether or not Obama is a NATURAL-BORN citizen as required by the Constitution.


6 posted on 04/16/2010 4:54:49 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino
...what is in doubt is whether or not Obama is a NATURAL-BORN citizen as required by the Constitution.
There's little doubt when is father was a British citizen.
8 posted on 04/16/2010 5:01:01 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: dinodino
AFAIK, nobody disputes Obama’s American citizenship

Well now you know someone. I do.

When I return to the USA, my citizenship is doubted and so I must show a passport. To get my first passport I had to show a certified copy of my birth certificate. I can put my hands on such a copy and on all of my old passports within minutes. The only reason I might not want to show any of these to anyone would be if I wanted to travel to an Arab country, some might not like the Israeli stamps on the visa pages. (And soon maybe even England won't like them either!)

Further there is no evidence, nor any suspicion, that I ever was a citizen of some other country nor that I renounced my American citizenship.

By comparison, the is such evidence that Obama was an Indonesian citizen. There is evidence that his parents renounced his American citizenship on his behalf. There is evidence that he was born in Kenya. He refuses to make certified copies of his birth certificate available or to produce his old passports available for inspection.

I cannot imagine why anyone would NOT harbor some doubt about Obama citizenship.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 04/16/2010 5:36:52 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: dinodino

Actually, until his actual citizenship status is know by documentation, no one knows for sure what his status is. He could be a non-US citizen, there are several possiblities.

Probably someone has already answered this but just in case they didn’t, here are a couple:

1. If he was born in Kenya and his father is actually 0bama Sr (legally he is the father at this point), then he is not a US citizen unless he got naturalized at some point.

2. Lolo Soetoro adopted him and his US citizenship may have been renounced at that point, so he would not be a US citizen unless he naturalized at some point.

3. He may (most likely did) use a foreign passport after the age of 18 and/or 21, which would be an act of renouncing any US citizenship he may have held at that point.

No evidence has been found that he ever became a naturalized US citizen, so in truth, until his personal documentation is out in the open, all bets are off as to what his legal citizenship status really is.


115 posted on 04/16/2010 11:46:35 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: dinodino

Hold On...I doubt his American Citizenship. I think he is an illegal alien.
I think he was born in Mombasa, Kenya
His mother was too young to defer citizenship to Obama, and did not meet US requirement stated many times.
There are eye witnesses to his birth in Mombasa, and a birth certificate on file with the judicial system.
Obama has never refuted any of this evidence and has spent a considerable amount of money to prevent discovery.
What we KNOW is that his father is Kenyan, what we have circumstatial evidence on is that he was adopted and became Indonesian.
You can’t disprove any of it. Many have tried and failed.


117 posted on 04/16/2010 11:49:55 AM PDT by etraveler13
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