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Gov. Crist Vetoes Senate Bill 6
Channel 4 - Jacksonville ^ | April 15, 2010 | Walsh

Posted on 04/15/2010 10:44:49 AM PDT by walsh

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Charlie Crist has vetoed a controversial bill that would have made it easier to fire Florida teachers and link their pay to student test scores.

(Excerpt) Read more at news4jax.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: crist; education; florida; gayblade
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To: VeniVidiVici

so?

crist was given money, what does he care about anything else?


41 posted on 04/15/2010 11:28:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VeniVidiVici
The funny part is Crist is too stupid to realize the brain dead teachers union will still endorse the Democrat.

Exactly! That's why RINO-ism makes absolutely no sense from a political perspective. The unions, media, etc., will always support the Democrat, no matter what.

42 posted on 04/15/2010 11:31:11 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: VeniVidiVici
So then how do you fire a teacher for being incompetent?

My question would be, "How do you correlate test scores with teaching?" Most such schemes (including bonus pay for scores, etc.) assume that all kids are identical. A teacher who gets 75% of his lower-level (i.e. reading 3-4 years below grade-level) kids to pass a standardized test may very well be a miracle worker. An honors teacher with a 75% pass rate is a worthless lump ... honors kids ought to have a 100% rate with little effort on a minimum standards test). So how do you factor in these variables without simply firing every teacher who is unlucky enough to teach low-levels? And who decides which teachers' test scores are evidence of their teaching and not other variables (who watches the watchmen...)?

43 posted on 04/15/2010 11:37:18 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: walsh

Bass turd!


44 posted on 04/15/2010 11:39:08 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced. I WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER)
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To: walsh
2 oxy-morons of public life:

A PRO-LIFE DEMOCRAT AND A LIBERAL REPUBLICAN

45 posted on 04/15/2010 11:45:51 AM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
My question would be, "How do you correlate test scores with teaching?"

So you did answer my question because teachers just don't get fired for incompetence.

46 posted on 04/15/2010 11:51:00 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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To: B Knotts

RINOs only protect rinos.

Rinos eat cash.

The unions are holding out the point of a sword to the RINOs.

The unions have more than enough pension money to donate.


47 posted on 04/15/2010 11:58:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VeniVidiVici

So then how do you fire a teacher for being incompetent?


You do not need test scores to prove a teacher is incompetent. A good administrator can tell when a teacher is not doing their job

Problem is too many administrators are just there to fill up space....they are clueless as to running things. Florida schools are filled with too many non-teaching admin and personnel...and they are a hinderance to education

And....test scores are a ted Kennedy legacy....and I do not want any of Ted Kennedy legacy around our schools


48 posted on 04/15/2010 11:59:50 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: walsh

Sunday, March 28, 2010

SPEAKERS:
CHRIS WALLACE, HOST
GOV. CHARLIE CRIST, R-FLA.

WALLACE: Speaking of these questions about your political future, there have been persistent rumors in Florida that you are so far behind, at least currently, in the polls — double digits to Mr. Rubio — that you may run instead as an independent.

Here is your chance to dispel all the rumors. Are you willing to pledge right here, right now that you will run in the Republican primary for the U.S. Senate and not run as an independent?

CRIST: I’m running as a Republican. I’m very proud to be from the party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, others that really have stood up for the principles of our party, like Ronald Reagan.

This is a great party. It has a great future. We have a great opportunity to win in November. It’s important that we put a candidate up that can win in November.

WALLACE: So are you ruling out that you will file as an independent by the April 30th deadline?

CRIST: That’s right. That’s right. I’m running as a Republican.

WALLACE: You will run not for a governor — you’ll run for Senate, and you will run as a — in the Republican primary.

CRIST: Chris, I’m running for the United States Senate. I know that our country needs help. I’m running as a Republican. This man to my left is a friend but I hope to defeat him on August the 24th, and I would encourage every Florida Republican to get out and vote.

WALLACE: Will you support the winner of the GOP primary, whether it’s you or Marco Rubio?

CRIST: Of course I will. Of course I will. But I think before that decision is made, people—

WALLACE: Well, I’m going to get — I’m going to — I’ll give you an opportunity for a final statement. I just want to say, though, you are saying you are going to run in the Republican primary for the U.S. Senate. You will not run on the no party affiliation line.

CRIST: That’s right. That’s right. That’s what I’m saying.


49 posted on 04/15/2010 12:01:41 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
A good administrator can tell when a teacher is not doing their job

LOL! Ya, right. And the union will let a teacher get fired for incompetence because "a good administrator can tell".

Admit it. Incompetent teachers don't get fired. They get moved.

50 posted on 04/15/2010 12:18:06 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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To: walsh; All

Granny Panties Crist Strikes Again!

51 posted on 04/15/2010 12:25:47 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: walsh

This is setting the table to run as an independent. He has nothing to lose at this point. The RATs know they have a loser in Meek. They will back-door their support to Crist in the general election (if he goes indy).


52 posted on 04/15/2010 1:21:26 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: clintonh8r
We will have to double are effort to get Rubio elected...I think he can still win..
53 posted on 04/15/2010 1:50:10 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: walsh
RINO Waste Of Skin

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54 posted on 04/15/2010 2:07:47 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Bushbacker1

Bushbacker, you going to the tea party by lake mirror? Look for me if you do. Rubio was supposed to speak but his father’s illness prevented him from coming.


55 posted on 04/15/2010 2:09:06 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: DocRock

Sorry, Doc! Couldn’t make it. My wife was there and said it was a mob of people! A bunch of Freepers were in Orlando for their (Orlando’s) Tea Party and had a booth/table, which we normally man.


56 posted on 04/15/2010 5:31:23 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: swamprebel

FL is #8 in eduction per this email i received tonight from Jeb’s organization:

Statement on Veto of SB 6

“I am disappointed by the veto of Senate Bill 6,” said Jeb Bush, former Governor of Florida and Chairman of the Foundation for Florida’s Future. “By taking this action, Governor Crist has jeopardized the ability of Florida to build on the progress of the last decade, which includes raising student achievement across the board, narrowing the achievement gap for poor and minority students, and improving graduation rates. Florida’s sustained improvement is the result of bold reforms that were challenging, controversial and sometimes even unpopular. Reform is hard work but without a commitment to change, Florida would not be 8th in the nation today.”

“I applaud the courageous members of the Senate and House of Representatives for their leadership in advancing the bold reform that will eventually transform education in Florida. I applaud Commissioner Eric Smith for his unwavering service to our state and its students. I also applaud Florida’s business leaders for their efforts to improve the quality of education for our state’s 2.7 million students.”

For more information on the Foundation for Florida’s Future’s commitment to advocating policies that keep the promise of a quality education for all of Florida’s students, please visit www.afloridapromise.org.


57 posted on 04/15/2010 7:25:32 PM PDT by libbylu ( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

You do not need test scores to prove a teacher is incompetent. A good administrator can tell when a teacher is not doing their job.

This is the tried and true way of the private sector. However, teachers have unions and tenure.

For those arguing that you shouldn’t throw out the baby with the bathwater, the baby has drowned. The one thing that standardized tests do is that they focus instruction away from frivolous crap.


58 posted on 04/15/2010 7:34:13 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: Bushbacker1
Tell your wife I was on the sidewalk most of the time shadowing the union teachers with the "Thank you gov crist" signs. I had the small Gadson flag. They were so brave trying to crash those violent, racist tea partiers. /sarc
59 posted on 04/15/2010 8:55:10 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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bttt


60 posted on 04/16/2010 5:54:31 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Jim Wallis speaks for Christians the same way that Jesse Jackson speaks for all blacks.)
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