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Carole is at it again. Not too many IRS agents... no enforcement... no worries. More propaganda from that idiot. Unbelievable.
1 posted on 04/11/2010 7:26:59 AM PDT by CherylMc
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Those liberal outfits “fact-checkers”? lol


2 posted on 04/11/2010 7:28:31 AM PDT by qwertypie
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If the Government is involved the numbers will only GROW!


3 posted on 04/11/2010 7:29:24 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Fact Check merely scans headlines and reports what ever they say. It does not actively investigate the truth of any claim. Just because the US Junk Media does not report it, does not make the claim false.

Fact Check is useless propaganda, not a serious source

4 posted on 04/11/2010 7:30:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Will work for guns and ammo!.)
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I just love this laughable quote from the article:

“PolitiFact.com is a Pulitzer Prize-winning, nonpartisan project of the St. Petersburg Times.”

...nonpartisan!? Now that got a real chuckle out of me!


6 posted on 04/11/2010 7:34:19 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Governor Palin backs RINO extraordinaire Juan McPain (and that just sucks!))
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DEFUND!!!

DEFUND!!!

DEFUND!!!


7 posted on 04/11/2010 7:34:27 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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Well, the IRS' main job is to provide information and administer subsidies to low- and middle-income people to help them buy health insurance, according to the law.

That's the job of the IRS is new superfriendly Obamistan!! Can the IRS get me a cup of coffee while they're serving me?

And even though people will have to get insurance starting in 2014, IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman testified before Ways and Means last month that the IRS won't be auditing anyone to certify that, FactCheck.org reports. Interestingly enough, the law also rules out any criminal penalties for those who don't get coverage or refuse to pay the tax.

So you're required by law to get insurance, but nobody has to pay the penalties and they won't be punished in any way if they don't!

Thanks liberals for providing the self-contradicting and obviously false information to "fact" me straight, you effin moron jackasses. The awesomeness of your stupidity confounds my ability to grasp its dimensions.

8 posted on 04/11/2010 7:37:33 AM PDT by dead
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The best they can say is "fuzzy?" "Probably not?"

This is what the author states:

The 16,500 number was extrapolated from an early Congressional Budget Office forecast that the IRS might need $5 billion to $10 billion over 10 years for all the administration and processes involved...

The CBO did not specify, however, how many new hires the IRS would have to make...but it used IRS employment figures and "reasonable assumptions" to suggest that as many as 16,500 additional "examiners, agents, and other employees" could be needed...

Overhead costs, such as offices, desks and computers, were not included, nor were any salary increases...

When you factor in those costs, the number of employees that could be hired is somewhere between 11,800 and 16,500...

I find this disingenuous. First, you won't need additional offices, desks, and computers unless you have additional people. Second, 11,800 new IRS agents is not a whole lot better than 16,500. Third, what does "salary increases" mean? You're going to need to pay salary increases no matter what, so I doubt that was included in the $5 to $10 billion estimate in the first place.

Third, I edited it out above, but the author's suggestion that the St. Pete Times is a "non-partisan" source is laughable, as is the author's assertion that William Ayers' benefactor, the Annenberg Foundation, is a non-partisan source.

12 posted on 04/11/2010 7:43:32 AM PDT by Brilliant
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The Annenberg funded factcheck (the same Annenberg that funded Obama and Ayers years back) and the site run by Libeals called Snopes are questionable sources of factual political information.

Truth or Fiction may be a better source for such debunking stuff.

14 posted on 04/11/2010 7:51:36 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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So . let me see if I've got this right:

the Gop says “as many as 16,500”

and the nonpolitical outfit says “ the number of employees that could be hired is somewhere between 11,800 and 16,500, PolitiFact.com notes”

Where does that differ from “as many as 16,500”?

Does not their figures exactly bear out the GOP figures?

15 posted on 04/11/2010 7:54:57 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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the law also rules out any criminal penalties for those who don't get coverage or refuse to pay the tax.

Right. They'll just fine the hell out of you. That's fair. (morons).

Interesting that they didn't point out that the IRS ALREADY has 104,000 employees. Maybe a few of those could take up the slack?

18 posted on 04/11/2010 8:15:46 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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A little side note - a story about an "upgrade" to the large IRS complex in Andover, MA. They are getting ready to have a lot of auditors busy. "From the Boston Herald front page today: The IRS received $80,469,000 in stimulus funds for “green” upgrades to the 400,000 square-foot complex, more cash than any other federal building in New England, according to documents from the U.S. General Services Administration, the agency that oversees federal buildings. The IRS already had $11.4 million on hand for the work, a GSA spokeswoman said." tax_mahl
19 posted on 04/11/2010 8:16:08 AM PDT by MassRepublican
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...the math used to arrive at the figure is - at best - fuzzy.

Well that shouldn't be a problem, it's the same math they used to push this bill down our throats.

22 posted on 04/11/2010 8:22:55 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (Miles to go...)
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16,500 new agents will look like a nat on a horses ass in 10 years.

They will only get bigger and bolder if we allow it to happen.

Kinda glad I didn't have any kids.

25 posted on 04/11/2010 8:43:19 AM PDT by unixfox
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It is obivious that all of these so called writers did not bother to read the d@med bill. Why do they all rely upon what someone else said to misinform themselves?


27 posted on 04/11/2010 9:20:40 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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