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Ron Paul: Barack Obama is Not a Socialist
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 10, 2010, 4:20 PM ET

Posted on 04/10/2010 1:43:00 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Cowgirl
Paul's timing is terrible in this case. Conservatives are defining a clear difference. Now he's trying to blur it, apparently for self-aggrandizement. Paul has just made himself part of the problem — unless he clears this up quickly [which I don't expect him to].
61 posted on 04/10/2010 2:09:48 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: All

Obama has stated it, himself: he doesn’t spend much time worrying about “process.” He is mostly determined to get the “disrupt and destroy” work done.


62 posted on 04/10/2010 2:10:50 PM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Fee

Yep! Agree Fascist at this point...wonder how far he will go...don’t really want to know.


63 posted on 04/10/2010 2:11:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: The_Media_never_lie
This is just plain bizarre. O is not a corporatist. He hates corporations.

He may hate small business, which can't do anything to advance his goals and which breeds a pesky sentiment of self-sufficiency among the public, but Obama's whole game is to try to co-opt large corporations and bring them under the protective umbrella of government. "Just do our bidding on health care and work rules," he says, "And we'll guarantee your market share and underwrite your poor decision-making." The larger corporations thus become a functional arm of government, distributing benefits to loyal union voters and making campaign contributions to important Obama team members in the House and Senate.

All too many large entities think this is a good deal. Which is why Waxman got so annoyed when a few of them deviated from the talking points on health care a couple of weeks ago. Ron Paul has the terminology wrong - "fascist" or "mercantilist" is more accurate than "corporatist" - but he correctly identifies that these entities are benefiting from a unseemly relationship with the Administration that is anything but capitalist in spirit.

64 posted on 04/10/2010 2:11:53 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Sub-Driver

well I lived in a socialist country and I know how it works and I can honestly say that Ron Paul has no clue what he is talking about.


65 posted on 04/10/2010 2:12:03 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: chaos_5

That’s not saying much, correct though you are.


66 posted on 04/10/2010 2:12:03 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: RichInOC

actually it is more accurate to call him a fascist, in the classic sense. There is certainly a mixture of textbook definitions of socialism and fascism in fedgov and the obama admin in particular.


67 posted on 04/10/2010 2:12:15 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Sub-Driver

o and I agree


68 posted on 04/10/2010 2:12:16 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Sub-Driver
And people wanted him to run for president?
69 posted on 04/10/2010 2:13:10 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Is Obama an Irish, Italian or Japanese name?)
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To: Sub-Driver

““He’s a corporatist,” Paul quickly added (since nobody had ever heard of the term before), meaning the president takes “care of corporations and corporations take over and run the country.”

I think that’s called socialism. It is one of the core concepts of socialism.

Regardless to Ron Paul’s belief in words he just made up, a ‘corporatist’ is just as bad for the country as a communist or socialist.


70 posted on 04/10/2010 2:13:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Cowgirl

I think people have just has it with him....he’s too overboard at times and that’s why he will always be a third party candidate if that.


71 posted on 04/10/2010 2:13:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sub-Driver

Well technically Obama is a fascist.


72 posted on 04/10/2010 2:13:58 PM PDT by DB
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To: lionheart 247365
Naw, naw, naw. Obama is Generalissimo Obama.
73 posted on 04/10/2010 2:15:17 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Is Obama an Irish, Italian or Japanese name?)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Obama’s not a socialist”...The other guy that shares that view is Mitch McConnel or however he spells his name. Talk show host from Cinci syndicated on saturdays. On every show he works that point of view in. The problem with both twerps is that they have people agreeing with them.


74 posted on 04/10/2010 2:15:45 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Corps vs Corpse? Why naturally, Obama was talking about the White House Press Corpse.!)
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To: autumnraine
Quote:
“The difference between [socialism and fascism] is superficial and purely formal, but it is significant psychologically: it brings the authoritarian nature of a planned economy crudely into the open.

The main characteristic of socialism (and of communism) is public ownership of the means of production, and, therefore, the abolition of private property. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Under fascism, men retain the semblance or pretense of private property, but the government holds total power over its use and disposal.

The dictionary definition of fascism is: “a governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc.), emphasizing an aggressive nationalism . . .”

The American College Dictionary,
New York: Random House, 1957.

This is why we've argued that Obama is a Fascist. GM, green energy, etc are all acts of Fascism, but the real pinaacle of this regime is the mortgage mod programs tailored to keep the banks afloat and substantially increase the suffering of the average Joe 6 Pack home owner in this country.... It is the third largest act of Fascism in real costs in the history of the world, with only Hitler's World War and Japan's Lost Decades causing greater losses of private capital.

75 posted on 04/10/2010 2:16:03 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
“He’s a corporatist,” Paul quickly added, meaning the president takes “care of corporations and corporations take over and run the country.”

If we ever need somebody that can split a frog's hair Ron Paul is our man. LOL

76 posted on 04/10/2010 2:16:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Corporatist? No. Obama hates Corporations and is a marxist. Paul is an idiot as usual.


77 posted on 04/10/2010 2:17:38 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Sub-Driver

I dunno. There is some truth to what he says. Some corporations that toe the line, like GE and GM, might benefit from Obama’s policies in the short to mid term. But they will be eaten last.


78 posted on 04/10/2010 2:18:00 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: caww

agreed
when I heard he said we do not need the FBI, CIA, homeland etc then I thought he was but then I heard him on foreign policy and that was it for me, I turned him off and yet everytime I hear about him he is again making stupid dumb comments


79 posted on 04/10/2010 2:18:07 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Sub-Driver

Call him whatever, Obama is a destroyer.


80 posted on 04/10/2010 2:18:13 PM PDT by mulligan
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