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New fighter on airfield near Moscow for tests
Voice Of Russia ^ | 4/8/2010 | Voice Of Russia

Posted on 04/09/2010 3:29:12 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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To: sonofstrangelove

The T-50 prototype parked next to a SU-30 that served as a chase plane (for those who claim it is the same aircraft)

It would be interesting if India could get Israeli assistance for the SU-50 like it did for the SU-30MKI.

21 posted on 04/09/2010 10:25:55 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Jewbacca

Bypassing the code is one of the stated reasons by the USA


22 posted on 04/09/2010 10:31:10 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: cunning_fish

Right now, Israel wants Russia to do something about Iran and they are not. That is why the last visit by Netanyahu was not so friendly.


23 posted on 04/09/2010 10:32:47 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Jewbacca

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Tech/Story/A1Story20091126-182416.html


24 posted on 04/09/2010 10:34:51 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Jewbacca

I can see your reason.


25 posted on 04/09/2010 10:40:36 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove; Jewbacca

What is the guarantee that Italy or another NATO country would return the aircraft in the event of a crisis???


26 posted on 04/10/2010 3:48:02 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They will ,by threat.It is amazing what countries will do when threatened.


27 posted on 04/10/2010 6:52:29 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Anyways the work will probably be done at Aviano air base where it is already secure. Aviano houses B-61 bombs.


28 posted on 04/10/2010 7:13:12 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I agree.

With Israel partnering on the T-50, it would be 3 times the plane it would be if Russia did it alone.

And, candidly, the USA under Obama is showing itself to be an unreliable ally to Israel.

Russia links and supports crap regimes in the Middle East (Iran, etc) as a counterbalance to the USA and Israel. If Israel and Russia joined (a much better aliance for Russia), those threats would wither on the vine.


29 posted on 04/11/2010 9:47:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Threats from whom??? Italy or any other country would have a veto on third-party equipment being shipped into their territory, even if its to a military base. Transit delays/sanctions have been commmon in a number of countries. The Brits refused to provide spares for American equipment used by the US military.


30 posted on 04/12/2010 1:35:29 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Anyways, Aviano Air Base is the logical place to repair the f-35s


31 posted on 04/12/2010 1:40:35 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Jewbacca

Don’t know-too much of a trust deficit to overcome.


32 posted on 04/12/2010 1:40:54 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sonofstrangelove

Chances are Israel will operate far more F-35s than Italy (which already has Eurofighter commitments). So it doesn’t make sense to house a maintenance facility there. Most modern contracts look for commercial facilities


33 posted on 04/12/2010 1:45:06 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

But the US is afraid that the Israelis will gain access of the source code. That is why the U.S. wants the planes in Italy than Israel.


34 posted on 04/12/2010 1:46:38 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The only way that can be prevented is if you have US personnel/joint custody around the aircraft at all times. Which is close to impossible. The US did that the Saudi F-15E fleet for a while in the early 90s.


35 posted on 04/12/2010 1:58:22 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I do not think that Lockheed Martin was not interested in joint crews.


36 posted on 04/12/2010 1:59:59 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Pentagon is not interested in “joint crews” either. I think that Lockheed and the Pentagon want to keep everything under their control.


37 posted on 04/12/2010 2:02:28 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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