Posted on 04/09/2010 3:05:56 PM PDT by SmartInsight
A 7-year-old Russian boy adopted by an American family last year was put on a return flight to Moscow this week because of violent and psychotic behavior, according to a Tennessee grandmother.
Once the child learned enough English, he told his new family about the horrors of his previous life, including being beaten at the orphanage after his mother abandoned him, she said.
He also told of an incident in which he burned down a building near the orphanage, she said.
Hansen said the child had a "hit list" of people he was targeting, including her daughter, who he said he "wanted to kill for the house." He threatened to kill her grandson for a videogame, she said.
The final incident that convinced Hansen she should send the boy back to Russia was when she caught him starting a fire with papers in his bedroom last Monday, she said. She feared the child might burn down the house and kill her family, she said.
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Too bad we didn’t know about this sooner, you could have taken him into your home......
That’s their story. After the child revealed he burnt a building, why not seek a mental evaluation? And why was it that it wasn’t until the child learned English that he became a menace? I think perhaps there is more to the story than is being told by ANYONE involved.
Really - “a dangerous nut case”? So there was a psychiatric evaluation, or some other corrobatoration other than their story?
I was told he had to sit directly behind me because of behavior issues, again, I assumed his immaturity. Turns out ole Jimmy, had lots of mental issues, anger management being one of them. He had broke a teachers arm at Pre-school by picking up a chair in a rage and slamming the teacher with it. He had been in and out of public school since. Just bounced around and meds adjusted, then back in school until he attached someone else, just round and round He would be 19 now, I don’t know what happened to him.
When we have all the drama threads on FR on how a little kid threw a tantrum at school and the police were called it is because these mental cases are “mainstreamed.” Violent kids who need custodial care and heavy medication to keep them from hurting others.
I will take that bet and give you 10- 1 odds. This system has been in place for years, and in their minds why argue with success. And that is exactly how these countries see dumping their problems on out shores.
Maybe they will be changes that are needed, but I bet it’s just something that will make these adoptions more expensive and less obtainable for childless people.
One does realize that this kid will one day grow up. How would you like to deal with a surly, murderous 18-year-old?
I think the right thing was done. The criticism in which it was stated that they should have worked it out with the adoption agency is valid, but that’s the only minus with yours truly.
My aplogies for any misunderstanding on my part.
Sorry.
I think my anger has taken over, and I’m not reading correctly. Brainless do-gooders make me angery. Would any one of these have offered to take in this dangerous nut case had they known about it before hand? Of course not. It’s all talk.
If you ever come to Panama, let me know; and I would love to invite you to lunch.
I have been in that situation, the Agency LIED to them. The agencies SOP in these cases is to stall and delay, have you fill out forms, stall and delay some more, until you give up and accept your lot out of frustration.
Been there done that. Unless you have gone through this then you really don't understand the issue.
There are not many facilities that are able to handle these kids...like I said the woman I worked with was on the phone daily with the state trying to KEEP her son locked up.......He had tried to kill them and killed all of their pets! At this point he was becoming a teenager and had grown to be as big as her.....she was terrified of him.
It is sick and evil to compare a child to "something," let alone "something you bought."
No a kid is not something you just return- but in our family we had a mess beyond description- theft of anything not nailed down, destruction just for the fun of it, flushing family jewelry etc down the toilet, sexually abusing the very very young daughters in the family and worse- which included years of trying to work through the situation nearly bankrupting the adoptive family.
In this case two brothers and a cousin. And yes they had a sickening background of being abused, physically and sexually. And no it does not always turn out this way, but some times it does.
They don’t have many in-patient facilities anymore....why do you think there are so many mentally ill homeless people. They are especially lacking when it comes to children. You cannot just drop the kid off and say here...they won’t take them!!!
The policy for dissolving an adoption takes years and often is not successful. If one has not experienced it, or known someone who has, there is not much room for lofty comments about what a child is, or is not.
From the article “In the 1 percent of the cases where the dissolution of an adoption has been needed, the agency “has always supported and worked closely with [adoptive] parents to assist the child in moving into a new adoptive family,” she said.”
I know people that had to dissolve an adoption. They liked the idea of being parents but the reality not so much. The child did have some serious problems though.
“These adoptions are not cheap, most are around $10,000, our out of pocket expenses (That we never saw a dime of was almost $11,000)”
Yes. In Panama it runs at least that much by the time lawyer fees are paid along with all the legal paper stuff. And this does not mean one takes the little brat home to the U.S. right way. These things sometimes take a year until all the legal paper stuff is in order.
Eventually that kid’s anger will come out on the wrong guy and that will be the end of it. There is ALWAYS someone tougher out there who is not particularly concerned about your history or pain and suffering.
“So there was a psychiatric evaluation, or some other corrobatoration other than their story?”
He was such a dear loving child he was returned?
Get real. They were there living this horror. You weren’t there. Maybe you would have liked to have taken him in to prove them wrong.
There was a kid on our neighborhood who had a terrible family life, crazy dad and mom, police there constantly.....one afternoon he was shooing his BB gun at the kids playing basketball, his next door neighbor came out grabbed the gun and smashed into pieces.....needless to say that boy has been in and out of jail since he was about 14.
No one blamed the child. The conditions in the Russian orphanages were blamed. The grandmother and mother were blamed but no one blamed the child.
Some observed that oftentimes when children are as abused as this boy was ... that he would create a ‘hit list’ that he would target his mother, or a cousin over a toy, that he would burn down a building and start a fire in his new home ... perhaps is damaged beyond normal people’s (or possibly anyone’s) ability to rehabilitate.
Should the grandmother have flown him alone back to Moscow? No.
Should the Russian orphanage have been honest with the family about his condition? Yes.
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