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Did Hawaii have any records on Obama before 2006?
post & email ^ | April 8, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/09/2010 10:11:55 AM PDT by Red Steel

THE POST & EMAIL THINKS NOT

The Hawaii Department of Health continues to ignore and stonewall legitimate requests for information which under its UIPA law should be made available to a requester within ten days.

Mr. John Charlton, our Editor-in-Chief, has made three requests for such information from the Health Department beginning in early March which the Health Department either says it does not understand or to which it has failed to respond at all.

On February 26, 2010, Mr. Charlton published an article demonstrating the Health Department’s increasing reluctance to comply with UIPA requests. He had asked for copies of handwritten pages from the “Birth Index” maintained before Hawaii’s birth records were computerized and had offered to pay for the cost of obtaining them. Specifically, he was looking for anyone with the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.

Instead, the Health Department sent a PDF file of births with the parents’ names redacted. None of the names for which Mr. Charlton had asked appeared on the list, although Mr. Charlton had obtained information independently that at least one person with one of the last names had been born during the period in question.

Since that time, Mr. Charlton has made three more requests to the Hawaii Department of Health, none of which has been addressed. The PDF which Janice Okubo, the Health Department’s Public Information Officer, released to Mr. Charlton did not contain the information he had requested.

On March 4, 2010, Mr. Charlton sent the Hawaii Health Department the following email:

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: april; article2section1; birthcertificate; britishsubject; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; dualcitizen; dualcitizenship; eligibility; fukino; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; janiceokubo; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; okubo; usurper
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To: Red Steel
but the more likely scenario is that Grandma ‘Tut’ Madelyn Dunham had them placed in the Hawaiian papers by whatever means.

Magic?, you people are really too much.

121 posted on 04/09/2010 5:39:39 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: MilspecRob

Well gee Francis getting a birth announcement blurb in a newspaper back in 1961 was not rocket science.


122 posted on 04/09/2010 5:44:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mojitojoe
At this point in time, I would not trust that microfilm any more than I’d trust the microfilmed newspaper announcements.

Wow Obama must be the smartest guy in the world, to have managed all this.

123 posted on 04/09/2010 5:53:06 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: LucyT

I can’t get this picture to post so here is the link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/inter-island_helicopters/2300732425

It is a group photo of Obama in the school chorus. Posting it for those who have not seen it (like me).


124 posted on 04/09/2010 5:55:25 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: LA Woman3

From newspapers, Honolulu births, August 4, 1961

Mr. and Mrs. Samuel K Haae Sr. 849A 11th Avenue, son, August 4
Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, son, August 4
Mr. and Mrs. Norman Asing, 2135 Anianiku Street, son, August 4
Mr. and Mrs. Andrew A. M. Hatchie, 2420 Kaululaau Street, daughter, August 4
Mr. and Mrs Harry Y. W. Wong, 463 Lawelawe Street, son, August 4


125 posted on 04/09/2010 5:56:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Red Steel

Well gee F, what is your objective evidence of that claim. How about some testimony from some other grandma that just “rang up” the dept of vital statistics to get her daughters son’s birth listed, and then put in the paper.


126 posted on 04/09/2010 6:03:50 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: MilspecRob

Well gee again troll, it was the newspaper that published the birth announcement not the Hawaiian government. And no one really buys that the only way to get a birth announcement in a newspaper in 1961 was through the DoH. That is complete nonsense.


127 posted on 04/09/2010 6:11:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mojitojoe; thouworm

According to the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare’s records in Vital Statistics of the United States, 1961, a total of 2,022 white babies and 6,246 non-white babies were born in Honolulu that year in a hospital attended by a physician.

http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=3109

That’s a total of 8068 births in Honolulu in 1961.

AND EACH AND EVERY BIRTH WAS ANNOUNCED IN THE HONOLULU PAPERS? I DON’T BELIEVE IT!

It’s so very very important to the obamabots that we believe the annoucements were published as a result of lists being supplied by Vital Statistics to the newspaper -

CAN ANYONE SHOW ME WHERE EITHER PAPER PRINTED IN EXCESS OF ON AVERAGE, 150 ANNOUNCEMENTS PER WEEK!?


128 posted on 04/09/2010 6:20:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Red Steel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2489872/posts?page=128#128

it’s bs!


129 posted on 04/09/2010 6:23:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Red Steel

So Red, no objective evidence, get out of moms basement more.


130 posted on 04/09/2010 6:37:46 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; LucyT

from my collection

131 posted on 04/09/2010 6:40:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks Fred...appreciate it.


132 posted on 04/09/2010 6:44:47 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: LA Woman3

JUNE 2009

Norman Asing (center right) receives the first
Micro-Loan dispursement from OHA
Economic Development Director Chip
Mclelland, Administrator Clyde Nämu‘o and
loan staffers Gilbert Fernandez and Dana
Hauani‘o.

http://www.oha.org/pdf/kwo04/0406/9.pdf


133 posted on 04/09/2010 6:57:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: MilspecRob

He was a community organizer, right?? All he had to was find some volunteers with photoshop skills or even some advanced forgery techniques. Can’t be too hard in a city like Chicago. Those newspaper announcements didn’t show up until skeptics started posting questions as to whether such announcements exist ... and I have to take some credit, because Lori Starfelt seemed to take a suggestion I made about contacting the state library in Hawaii.


134 posted on 04/09/2010 7:02:15 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

If that’s the case then we’re scr#wed.


135 posted on 04/09/2010 7:06:06 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Fred Nerks

I think if you looked at the monthly birth statistics ... in August alone, there should have been about 45 announcements per day. Granted, I think there are somewhere around 25 or more each in the newspapers with Obama’s birth and the subsequent listing that had the Nordykes. Numerically, however, I did a month to month tally and came up with less births by August than would be indicated by the certificate number on either Obama’s or the Nordyke’s certificates. The 1961 Natality Report says it doesn’t include foreign births, so that could account for the 500 or so discrepancy. Also, take note that as many as 300 or so were definitely out of state that year.


136 posted on 04/09/2010 7:07:03 PM PDT by edge919
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To: MilspecRob

Sit tight skippy, get ready to look like a fool in a few months. ooh this is going to be so much fun. Oh and OBONGO isn’t smart, his posse is though and it’s amazing what they can do when there is SO much at stake.


137 posted on 04/09/2010 7:07:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: butterdezillion

Amen. It’s coming and it will be fast and furious.


138 posted on 04/09/2010 7:08:56 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: edge919; butterdezillion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=8963#8963

the best explanation I’ve heard so far...


139 posted on 04/09/2010 7:08:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: LA Woman3

I worked at a couple of newspapers and we kept paper copies of all old newspapers bound in these giant annual binders. They were in a room we called the morgue. As an employee, I could go in, pull out the binder and find the paper copies of these old newspapers. I’m not recalling if they went back as far as the 1960s, but they had a lot of old copies still on file that way. If someone was in Honolulu, it would be worth a trip to the newspaper office to see if they have a morgue. Sometimes you can try a county historical museum for things like that too.


140 posted on 04/09/2010 7:12:45 PM PDT by edge919
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