Posted on 04/08/2010 2:32:54 PM PDT by iowamark
Glenn Beck and radio pals Pat Gray and Stu Burguiere rattled down the list of potential Republican nominees for President in 2012 this morning, and they had some bad news for the Tea Party movement: Sarah Palin probably wont run, Ron Paul is still and long shot, and Mitt Romney, as of now, is the GOPs best bet.
While Gray and Burguiere are harsh to most of the candidates, Beck spreads the love around. He tells his co-hosts that he likes Palin but doesnt think she will run, Bobby Jindal but doesnt think he has the charisma, and Congressman Paul but doesnt think America is ready for him. Then, at the bottom of the pile, he finds Mitt Romney:
"I have to tell you that Mitt Romney could be the only guy that could win, and I dont know if he could because I think that Americans are going to be I mean, this country is going to be in deep trouble by 2012, and the next term, if its not decided this term, the next term will decide our fate. Then I hope that Americans are ready for an adult and are ready for hard news."
Its a strange, possibly sad conclusion from someone who had called Romney out for flirting with socialism, but ultimately Beck was trying to determine who could win, not who he thought should. If Beck was playing process of elimination, which he clearly was, its hard to refute his conclusion that Romney is the least likely candidate to crash and burn in a general election, if only for being a conservative from the most liberal state of America and having moderate successes like universal health care under his belt. Or and this one is for you conspiracy theorists out there maybe Beck is intentionally downplaying the Republican candidates ability to success so as to clear the brush and become the reluctant right-wing candidate by default. After all, he is the second-most popular human being in America. (Link to a Harris poll: Glenn Beck is the second most popular television personality in America second only to Oprah Winfrey.)
Listen to the segment below:
You might think of people but I think of the Lord Jesus Christ that is who I mean when I say the Church!
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Fine then, let’s be more specific, shall we? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had racist policies and still has racist doctrines.
The LDS organization is not the “Lord’s Church”. The Church of Jesus Christ is NOT, has never been and will never be a ‘denomination’. The greek word for Church has a generic, universal meaning “called out ones”.
The GA’s are imperfect but they claim to speak for God, and God is not a racist.
Just a few years ago, I had a friend who was told by a temple worker (when she was having her adopted children from Guatemala sealed to her and her husband) to watch them closely because they will become ‘white and delightsome’, the attitude is still there even if it isn’t official policy anymore.
Amen!
Oh, YES, it makes a difference! Obama CAN'T have gotten natural-born status from his mom if she were only 18 at the time! Great. Now I'm a birther, too. That's what I get for believing the network news; I had thought she was 19 or 20 when she had Obama, but Wikipedia says no, she was 18. The pro-Obama fact-checkers would have corrected it if they could have, so it must be true. That's why the issue of his birth certificate is so significant.
I'm so embarrassed. I thought I had all the facts before the election.
Agreed.
I might be as well. I hate the idea of a third party but we may have to do what the pubbies did to the Whigs.
I will NOT hold my nose and vote again. I can’t. It is PAST time we took the GOP back.
If their faith negatively impacts their candidacy or political views or viability then yes it would be an issue regardless of which faith that was.
The fact that both parties in the article are LDS and there is a lot of baggage involved.
If an ethnic Palestinian Muslim were running against a Jewish candidate, religion would also be an issue as would the recent history between the groups. This isn’t any different.
A lot sooner than LDS, inc. did. Resty, I do not make excuses for Christian church history, most Christians do not.
We can admit there are problems in our history because we do not equate the physical church (denomination) with Christ. This is a luxury the LDS do not have. The LDS church (being a restored ‘church’) has the difficulty of reconciling past policies/history/doctrines in a consistent manner since it claims to be the ‘only true church on the face of the earth’.
If their leaders were not leading by God then how can anything they say be trustworthy?
pale face = ‘white and delightsome’ to use Book of Mormon language.
Say what you want carry on...
We all will have to answer why we did what we did!
I am so happy that I do not have to tear down others to feel good or to make my faith look better.
I am so thankful that the scriptures are no longer open ended.
As a child I would hear people of different theologies argue over a passage and never really resolve the issue.
But because of The Book of Mormon it has testified of the Bible and no longer are passages left in limbo for now there is a witness and a clarification.
I have also witness to my amazement that many who follow the Tradition of men no longer have the insight that did exist a few years back when I had discussion on various topics.
There was always an agreement on many things except for a few concepts such as free will, kinds of baptism, and works.
Today it is a 100% disagreement if the LDS believes that than we don’t.
So they say out with the Keeping the Lord’s commandments, free agency, covenants, baptism, revelation, knowing for sure the Holy Ghost is not easy to discern as the words of the Bible so no need to worry about trying to discern spirits chuck them all...
All you have to do is believe so no need to repent, or be baptized you are already saved.
It is never never land to think somehow prophets were prefect none were going back from the beginning of time
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But GOD IS perfect and either these prophets were NOT speaking for God as they claimed or God is a racist. Those are the only two options that can explain why the ban on blacks wasn’t lifted until 1978.
How gullible that so many think our Scriptures were never at the mercy of the enemies of God we are bless for what we do have but even those in days gone by argue over content of the scriptures because of all of the tampering!
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Please, resty, point out WHICH VERSES IN THE BIBLE ARE ‘tampered with’.
You are saying that the Bible is at the mercy of God’s enemies and therefore either God COULD NOT or REFUSED TO preserve His word (the Bible).
That is a huge accusation and I think we should at least be told what parts of the Scriptures are ‘not translated correctly’ so we can avoid them.
It would be doing us ‘gentiles’ a favor, don’t you think?
That is a fact and can be found in their writing to each others who have written the various versions of the Bibles we have today how they wrestled among themselves.
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Do you have any idea of the tranmission and translation process and WHY we have so many different versions today, their purposes and why there was a ‘boom’ in translations after 1950?
Just how does the ten commandments effect the election most of you have already elected folks who are not even familiar with them!
When folks run for office they promise to up hold the constitution which protects all members of the country to practice their own religion.
We still live in a secular world so a spiritual doctrine is not ruling it is the constitution.
To say otherwise is to be an instigator with ones own bias spin!
There has been many of LDS who have for 100 years or more served in office some in governing positions and never ruled according to their doctrine!
Woodrow Wilson was a Presbyterian yet he ruled using progressive platform.
That blacks were denied the LDS priesthood and thus all the ‘blessings’ of the LDS temples which include marriage for eternity and the endowment ceremonies which are required to return to the presence of God.
Basically, denying the blacks the priesthood amounted to refusing them entrance into the presence of God the Father and the ability to ‘progress’ to godhood themselves.
The reason for this, according to most LDS leaders and prophets was because the blacks were ‘less valiant’ during the war in heaven and were ‘fence sitters’ between God and Satan and/or were descendants of Cain.
Would you (or anyone) like me to post the sources for this?
THIS is why Romney will NEVER win against Zero.
Gonna post a pic of foxie?
I am trying to figure out how one person (Romney) out of million of members is single out?
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Because he wants to run for POTUS and some here think he would be a good nominee.
Things like this will be MAJOR news stories if he runs against Zero.
It would be nice if you did not react but understood the scriptures more before trying to say something that is being taken out of context in the scheme of historical biblical understanding.
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What was taken out of context, scripture or otherwise?
The LDS policy on Blacks is VERY well documented. For eye opening articles, quotes and documentation please see the following links...
http://utlm.org/topicalindexb.htm#Racism
http://www.ils.unc.edu/~unsworth/mormon/blackintermarriage.html
The Lord told his child in ancient times as well in modern time the Lords children are counsel to obey the Law of the land also it is one of the articles of Faith
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That doesn’t explain why the LDS kept the policy LONG after the ‘law of the land’ was changed.
I am so happy that I do not have to tear down others to feel good or to make my faith look better.
I am so thankful that the scriptures are no longer open ended.
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Me too. I don’t have to make my faith look better, it is all about Christ, I don’t have to make excuses for false prophets and changing doctrines.
And you are right the scriptures are no longer open ended. The canon is closed the Bible complete. That is great news!
I wonder how God's Kingdom would have advanced without Joseph Smith doing all the heavy lifting...
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