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Obama: U.S. Didn't Win Cold War
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124744075427029805.html ^

Posted on 04/08/2010 1:29:48 PM PDT by TigerBait

There are two different versions of the story of the end of the Cold War: the Russian version, and the truth. President Barack Obama endorsed the Russian version in Moscow last week.

Speaking to a group of students, our president explained it this way: "The American and Soviet armies were still massed in Europe, trained and ready to fight. The ideological trenches of the last century were roughly in place. Competition in everything from astrophysics to athletics was treated as a zero-sum game. If one person won, then the other person had to lose. And then within a few short years, the world as it was ceased to be. Make no mistake: This change did not come from any one nation. The Cold War reached a conclusion because of the actions of many nations over many years, and because the people of Russia and Eastern Europe stood up and decided that its end would be peaceful."

The truth, of course, is that the Soviets ran a brutal, authoritarian regime. The KGB killed their opponents or dragged them off to the Gulag. There was no free press, no freedom of speech, no freedom of worship, no freedom of any kind. The basis of the Cold War was not "competition in astrophysics and athletics." It was a global battle between tyranny and freedom. The Soviet "sphere of influence" was delineated by walls and barbed wire and tanks and secret police to prevent people from escaping. America was an unmatched force for good in the world during the Cold War. The Soviets were not. The Cold War ended not because the Soviets decided it should but because they were no match for the forces of freedom and the commitment of free nations to defend liberty and defeat Communism.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhocommunism; bhofascism; bhotreason; bhotyranny; coldwar2; communism; democrats; fubo; kenyanvilliageidiot; obama; putin; russia; sovietunion
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To: TigerBait

It’s BS like this that tempts me to send this jackass my retirement award (U.S. Army) and tell him to stick it where the sun don’t shine. Then, I remember that unlike him, I earned my rank and my awards.


61 posted on 04/08/2010 2:58:02 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: SparkyBass; cardinal4

Perhaps if the Commander-in-Chief (gag) had spent a couple of years hunkered down in the snow of the Fulda Gap, staring at the 8th Guards Shock Army or the 27th Motorized Rifle Division’s tanks and artillery, he might have a different outlook on who won the Cold War.


62 posted on 04/08/2010 3:02:48 PM PDT by Ax
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To: ladyvet

I echo your sentiments. Two tours of duty in Germany. 1978-1981 in Hanau, and then 1991-1995 in Stuttgart.


63 posted on 04/08/2010 3:05:44 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: icwhatudo

Not to mention a United Germany.
Obama proves there are more horses asses than there are horses.


64 posted on 04/08/2010 3:06:40 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: silverleaf

He can come and try to get mine. It would be a big mistake on his part.


65 posted on 04/08/2010 3:08:03 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

That was my reaction with the now WAY over-used “Make no mistake...” Enough already, dip****


66 posted on 04/08/2010 3:10:32 PM PDT by cld51860
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To: ladyvet

I was stationed in Germany from 88-91.

This POS has to go.


67 posted on 04/08/2010 3:18:19 PM PDT by GulfWar1Vet
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To: Babalu
80-83 Grafenwoehr, being stationed there was much better then visiting! ;^)
68 posted on 04/08/2010 3:19:18 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: chimera

“Lately I’m of the option the Soviets won it. The election of Obama is proof of that. “

Try a different perspective:

We beat the commies in Europe but hadn’t gotten around to cleaning up the commies in our own house. We’re doing that now. King obuma and his Marxist trash are heading for a reckoning they never expected. The collectivist democrat party is about to go extinct.


69 posted on 04/08/2010 3:19:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: TigerBait


70 posted on 04/08/2010 3:24:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ladyvet

You were there when the 130th and 18th Engineer Brigades did major range upgrades. I was with the 130th Engineer Bde (Combat).


71 posted on 04/08/2010 3:32:06 PM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: TigerBait

This “man” makes me ill.


72 posted on 04/08/2010 3:35:19 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: TigerBait
He is beyond pathetic.
73 posted on 04/08/2010 3:41:24 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Babalu

We supported the artillery units that came to train. Sat in bunkers with a BC scope telling them up-down-left-right until they hit the target. Needless to say totally obsolete MOS now,LOL!


74 posted on 04/08/2010 3:54:20 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: TigerBait

Obama getting down and licking Putin’s boots!


75 posted on 04/08/2010 3:58:49 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...
Obama is licking Putin's boots again...

Putin "Get down there and lick some more, O"

Obama: "Ok Dokey"

76 posted on 04/08/2010 4:02:08 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: TigerBait

Perhaps we can crack open a U.S. History textbook and just go through what Obama recognizes happened and what doesn’t exist in his fantasyland - or has some bizarre leftist interpretation like “Washington didn’t cross the Delaware, the gentle, noble river spirit allowed him to do so.”

This guy isn’t even a moonbat. He’s out in the Kuiper Belt.


77 posted on 04/08/2010 4:23:23 PM PDT by order66.exe
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To: TigerBait

Dr. Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews “an online geopolitical intelligence service”.

He has had two parallel careers: one in the field of adventure and exploration as the owner of Jack Wheeler Expeditions; the other in the field of political and economic freedom as president of the Freedom Research Foundation.

Wheeler’s articles are also published by WebNetDaily.

Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Thursday, 30 April 2009

Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy. A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrées and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I’d known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE – Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (General Directorate for External Security), France’s military intel agency – in Paris has its decided benefits.

One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. “My agency considers him a joke,” he confides. “Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe. Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh.”

“In truth, it also makes us sad,” he continued. “French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America – America The Great! – do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man.”

“There are many people in America who think he isn’t a legitimate president as he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t a natural citizen. What do you think?” I asked.

He shrugged. “I wouldn’t know. I’ve never had reason to make an inquiry.”

“There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?”

He didn’t shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, “I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America’s best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction.”

“What does Sarkozy think of him?”

“Nothing but contempt.”

After a pause he asked, “And Langley?”

“Well, if you thought the war they waged against Bush was intense, it was nothing compared to how they’re going to screw Obama. He has tried to gut them with the ‘torture memo’ release and slashing their budgets. The morale is depressed, sullen, and enraged. You know what a left-wing outfit Langley is. They thought he was their boy and they feel betrayed. All kinds of damaging stuff on him will be appearing via their media friends.”

He nodded. “And in Tel Aviv City?”

He was referring to the huge underground city complex of Langley’s underneath the US Embassy in the Israeli capital. “That’s an interesting question. You know how vast and deep the relationship is there. Langley is making every effort to overcome the total and massive distrust their Israeli colleagues have for Obama, whom they know is selling them down the Jordan River. So far though this effort is in words. The Israelis are waiting to see what Langley does.”

He said nothing. I smiled. “You guys wouldn’t be Langley’s cutout for thwarting BO regarding Israel, would you? I’d never suspect that…”

He continued to say nothing, gave me only a slight smile in return, and poured me another glass of wine. “The Bordeaux is good, yes?” I nodded.

“You know, the French media worships this man the same as yours in the US. All of this ‘100 days’ talk, it is impossibly stupid. Most anyone in the French elite, the business leaders, Sarko’s people, they all know this. They all think this is some crazy joke of the Americans. But it is a very, very dangerous joke. For 100 days your president has been a laughingstock among the tout le monde of Paris. No one may be laughing 100 days or 10 months from now.”

He leaned forward. “The world can go – how do you say – sideways with this man very quickly. No one he has working for him knows what they are doing – possibly excepting Mrs. Clinton – and he certainly does not. All of us in our little community are worried – us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv, and Langley too as you say. It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates. The Somalis, Chavez, Iran, Putin, Beijing, the ‘Norks” as you call them, the list is long and it is growing. We are not sure what to do.”

It took me a moment to respond. “The best thing that has happened now is Obama making Langley his enemy. They will be cooperating with you more, be more a part of your worried community. Working together, you can undermine his efforts more effectively, block and maybe even repair the damage.”

It was my turn to lean forward. “Then again, all together you could be more pro-active. The man is a mystery. Nobody can make public his actual birth certificate, or even the particular hospital he was born in, or his college grades, or how he got into Harvard, or how he made editor of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article for it. It goes on and on. He really is a Zero. I think all of you guys should find all of this out and make it known.”

I added, “The quicker the better, before the laughing stops and the real dangers begin.”

“What is that phrase you use?” he asked. “Something to consider?”

I laughed. “Yes, there is much to consider – and much that you can do. I mean, really, if the Soviet Union could be dismantled, so can this presidency.”

It was a beautiful April afternoon in Paris. He walked me back to my hotel. It could be that the times we live in may get even more interesting.


78 posted on 04/08/2010 4:28:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: Sherman Logan
I don't have to be fair because I'm not Bill O'Reilly.

While there were isolated incidents, I presume, tell me where American soldiers who also hated the Germans, raped whole groups of village women as they marched through German territory.

The soviet soldiers "didn't do this en masse because they were commies"? I submit they did it because they were GODLESS commies. God or Christ were not allowed to be taught when these soldiers and the officers responsible for their men grew up under the propaganda of the atheistic, churchless successors of Marx and Lenin.

There is no moral equivalency between American troops and Stalinist soldiers just because troops have been raping women war prisoners and civilians for "thousands of years".

Leni

79 posted on 04/08/2010 4:38:06 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: MinuteGal

Obammie the Commie enrages me with his moral equivalencies and denseness. The Soviet army, in the WW2 race to Berlin, swept through the little hamlet in the far farmlands of Germany where she and her family lived. She was just a little girl.
Only old men were in the village. The women and girl children were rounded up, locked into barns and raped by the undisciplined Soviet barbarians....including my cousin, her mother and some aunts.

Obama apparantly does not only NOT know the war history of the last century, but would not learn anything from it even if he knew it.

He is an evil man. God help us.

Leni


Thanks to FDR, for holing American troops back

and telling everyone what a good Joe old Stalin, the mass murderer of millions, was.

Read the book: Stalin: In the Court of the Red Czar

and you will cry.


80 posted on 04/08/2010 4:42:46 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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