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Arguing with an Obamabot about healthcare

Posted on 04/07/2010 5:41:52 PM PDT by PaulZe

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To: PaulZe
Ask her is she thinks a 2% profit margin is excessive. Ask her if the Postal Service is run efficiently. Ask her how she's going to like paying and extra 17%VAT on EVERYTHING she ever buys again in the USA. Ask her if she likes waiting, waiting, waiting to see a Doctor due to the Doctor shortage. Ask her if she has ever seen a more immature Pres..ent of the USA.
21 posted on 04/07/2010 5:51:15 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: PaulZe

You don’t need friends like her. Trade her in for a better friend.


22 posted on 04/07/2010 5:51:46 PM PDT by kevao
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To: PaulZe

Quit arguing with her and kick her to the curb. You can’t argue with idiots.


23 posted on 04/07/2010 5:52:03 PM PDT by sheana
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To: PaulZe

I’m having trouble too. My problem is that RomneyCare mandated buying insurance, and the Heritage Foundation (the dopes!!!) justified it! I thought my liberal “buddy” was making it up but then she gave me a link: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2006/04/Understanding-Key-Parts-of-the-Massachusetts-Health-Plan

Stupid Mitt-iot... and I’m disappointed in Heritage.

Problem is, I stop debating her, she’ll crow to all her friends that she’s won and that I ran away... I never run away from a debate! Can you guys help?


24 posted on 04/07/2010 5:53:27 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: PaulZe

Ask her if two wrongs make a right, and wouldn’t we be better off if each state could design its own health care system for its own particular problems—diversity!


25 posted on 04/07/2010 5:54:22 PM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: PaulZe

Don’t have to have car insurance if the car is paid for and you only drive it on your private property.


26 posted on 04/07/2010 5:54:54 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: PaulZe

Best thing I was ever told was only a fool arues with a idiot. Enough said.


27 posted on 04/07/2010 5:55:02 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: PaulZe
Liberals don't THINK ... they FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Throw her away. You don't need a lifetime of grief.

28 posted on 04/07/2010 5:55:25 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: PaulZe

As she has already submitted herself to govt health authority, her opinion on the issue is no longer relevant. She is effectively a subject of the state.


29 posted on 04/07/2010 5:57:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: sheana

The lib is an imbecile.

Now there are 2 kinds of libtards: one which you can “discreetly’ educate and then there are the ..nimrods.

I’ve had liberal EX friends who think Bush is pure evil. When I said “if Bush went to war, he needed Congressional approval and the Dem-majority voted for it, so how exactly did Bush do this illegal war?” No one has come up with the answer except ‘F888 Bush”.

That’s their “logical” answer.


30 posted on 04/07/2010 5:57:31 PM PDT by max americana
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To: jedi150

i guess im a fool...smile


31 posted on 04/07/2010 5:57:48 PM PDT by PaulZe
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To: jiminycricket000

Yeah, I tried that one, and she dug up a law from 1792, the Militia Act.
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/SOURCES.HTM#TOC33

This one had the government mandating all men to buy a gun and ammunition.

Anyone got an answer for that? She is a tricky one... I want to just write her off but my pride won’t let me! Guess this is what I get for debating a lawyer!


32 posted on 04/07/2010 5:58:45 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: PaulZe
A few things:

You've already noted that home insurance is requiremed by the mortgage company (who loaned you the money), not the federal government.

Flood insurance is similar: they can't loan you the money for a property in a flood zone unless you have flood insurance. In this case the "can't" is correct: a federally-regulated institution has to require the insurance. In this case, this is federal regulation of a bank, which insures depositors against failure.

All of the other examples are state-mandated -- not federally mandated. There's a big difference.

Finally, the federal "mandates" for the 55 speed limit and seat belt laws (as well as the age limit for purchasing alcohol) were all imposed the same way: Change your laws, or we will withhold your share of federal gas tax funds that we collected. A state could refuse those funds, on principle... but none did.

33 posted on 04/07/2010 5:59:01 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: PaulZe

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Does she really believe that previous incremental assaults on Lady Liberty make her full on rape Constitutional?


34 posted on 04/07/2010 5:59:43 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: VictoryGal

You aren’t kidding. HF was a dope...

Your argument - RomneyCare is busting the state. So anyone - ANYONE - who thought this was a good idea was dead wrong.


35 posted on 04/07/2010 5:59:57 PM PDT by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: PaulZe

Ask her if it would be OK if you stuck a knife in her ribs to extort money from her for your medical expenses.

If she says “No”, ask her why it’s OK for the government to do it.


36 posted on 04/07/2010 6:00:38 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: VictoryGal
My problem is that RomneyCare mandated buying insurance, and the Heritage Foundation (the dopes!!!) justified it!

RomneyCare is a state mandate. Massachusetts decided to impose it, and unless their state constitution prohibits it, it's within the powers of the state.

It's not the same as a federal mandate. There are US Constitutional issues in play.

37 posted on 04/07/2010 6:01:42 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: VictoryGal
This one had the government mandating all men to buy a gun and ammunition.

There's a Constitutional basis for that: the 2nd Amendment.

38 posted on 04/07/2010 6:02:52 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: pnh102
Ask her if socialist health care is so good, then why do so many people from countries with such systems come here for more expensive treatment?

Another question: Why does Congress have different retirement and healthcare plans from the rest of the populace? Hmmmm...?

39 posted on 04/07/2010 6:03:14 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: snowrip

Liberals are just stupid. You can’t argue logically with someone that’s just plain stupid as most libs are.


40 posted on 04/07/2010 6:03:23 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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