Obama's Private Army now law.

YouTube ^ | 04.08.10

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Obama said during the campaign that he wanted a civilian force as powerful as the military. Are your kids or grandkids likely to sign up for something like that? It isn't hard to figure where they will come from, I suspect the core is already in place.

After WW1 the German military was heavily limited by treaty but in the period leading up to WW2 it had an inordinate number of sergeants. All of a sudden it turned into an awesome fighting force, put together and trained by all those highly skilled sergeants and a corp of officers. It doesn't take long when the core exists!

I'm not trying to stir anything up but it's a fact, a whole bunch of people claiming to be Americans hate what this Nation is. They hate it just as much as Osama Bin Laden does, and THEY ARE HERE!

[celtic gal]

I WAS talking about this very thing this afternoon with a friend who owns a shop and a sales man who was there. The salesman and I are of like mind and the shop owner is as well but doesn't have the time to read and investigate. In some ways this is a problem that folks are so busy trying to keep their businesses afloat that there is little time for much else.
The salesman said his son is back from his second tour in Iraq and will be going next to Afghanistan and what he had to say about how the ROE have changed since 0bama took control has the troops hands tied.

[celtic gal]

There are two major components to this oath..support and defend the Constitution ( not the President) and the order issued must be lawful orders...

[celtic gal]

I would suggest, to add to where this group of “ soldiers” would come from...how about that education bill with the grants,,,and how they can go about repaying the so called loan...fashioned after those who get an education at the Military Academies where after graduation they owe the military 4 or 5 years service. There are all sorts of little traps here to achieve this goal for having his own personal little army.

[DugwayDuke]

My point was that this changes nothing in the status of the NG.

BTW, Dukakis is a very good weapon in a gun control debate.

The gun controlists will argue that the 2nd Amendment only protects the rights of a state to have a militia independent of federal control and that the NG is the modern equivalent of the militia.

This whole ‘collectivist theory’, so beloved of gun controlists, can be easily demolished by reference to Dukakis. Since USSC has held that the federal government has plenary power over the NG, then the NG cannot be the militia and neither can the militia be the NG.

[Oatka]

Govenor of the state of Mass. (Dukakis) sued the feds claiming that the feds could not send Mass NG units to Central America without his permission. USSC ruled that the federal government could, essentially, do any damn thing with the NG that they wanted.

Glad you posted this. It seems to me the Feds lured the States into this trap by tellng the States they would take over footing the expenses. Once that was done, it was "well since we pay for them, we can do what we want with them".

This also exposes the anti-gun lie that the NG are the "militia" mentioned in the 2nd Amendment. Since the NG can be nationalized any time by govt whim, they aren't a real militia, who are answerable only to the State.

Under the present setup, the next line of defense when the NG is Federalized are the State Police.

[roaddog727]

Very ugly indeed.

And I’m ready for ALL contingencies.

[Terry Mross]

My parents thought Faubus was wonderful because he had gravel put on an old dirt road. That was nice but it didn’t make him a god.

He also was instrumental in getting “commodities” given out to the poor. I ate a lot of cheese at my grandma’s house. The powdered milk and powered eggs would gag a maggot.

Faubus served 14 years, I think, and was never paid for than $15,000 a year. When he “retired” he paid cash for a $250,000 house. That was in the early 60’s. Lots of house for a man who didn’t earn much money. I don’t know how much he “made”.

[GreenLanternCorps]

“Under the present setup, the next line of defense when the NG is Federalized are the State Police.”

Actually that would be the State Defense Forces:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Defense_Forces

In Ohio it is the Ohio Military Reserve.

[Zionist Conspirator]

President Eisenhower nationalized the Arkansas NG When George Wallace was governer in order to integrate schools in Alabama.

Wrong. It was Orval Faubus and Arkansas (Central High in Little Rock).

[Oatka]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Defense_Forces

Thanks. Didn't know the States had any, and apparently only 20+ of them do.

It appears that the Feds can even take over the militia when it deems necessary:
10 USC 332 – “Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority”
Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State or Territory by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

[GreenLanternCorps]

The President can call up pretty much anybody for Federal service. The law you cited just codifies it.

US Constitution:

Article II

Section 2:

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States;

[HiTech RedNeck]

the rats stuffed that into a health bill? good grief.

[tarpit]

Thomas Dowling from pages 1336-1339 of the "Health Care" bill that was signed by 0bama:

SEC. 5209. ELIMINATION OF CAP ON COMMISSIONED CORPS. Section 202 of the Department of Health and Human Services Appropriations Act, 1993 (Public Law 102–394) is amended by striking ‘‘not to exceed 2,800’’.

SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS. Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows: ... See More

‘‘SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS.

‘‘(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—

‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—There shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency.

‘‘(2) REQUIREMENT.—All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act of 1923, as amended.

‘‘(3) APPOINTMENT.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

‘‘(4) ACTIVE DUTY.—Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training.

‘‘(5) WARRANT OFFICERS.—Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commissioned officer within the Commissioned Corps of the Service.

‘‘(b) ASSIMILATING RESERVE CORP OFFICERS INTO THE REGULAR CORPS.—Effective on the date of enactment of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, all individuals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this section (as such section existed on the day before the date of enactment of such Act) and serving on active duty shall be deemed to be commissioned officers of the Regular Corps.

‘‘(c) PURPOSE AND USE OF READY RESEARCH.—

‘‘(1) PURPOSE.—The purpose of the Ready Reserve Corps is to fulfill the need to have additional Commissioned Corps personnel available on short notice (similar to the uniformed service’s reserve program) to assist regular Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions.

‘‘(2) USES.—The Ready Reserve Corps shall—

‘‘(A) participate in routine training to meet the general and specific needs of the Commissioned Corps;

‘‘(B) be available and ready for involuntary calls to active duty during national emergencies and public health crises, similar to the uniformed service reserve personnel;

‘‘(C) be available for backfilling critical positions left vacant during deployment of active duty Commissioned Corps members, as well as for deployment to respond to public health emergencies, both foreign and domestic; and

‘‘(D) be available for service assignment in isolated, hardship, and medically underserved communities (as defined in section 799B) to improve access to health services.

‘‘(d) FUNDING.—For the purpose of carrying out the duties and responsibilities of the Commissioned Corps under this section, there are authorized to be appropriated $5,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014 for recruitment and training and $12,500,000 for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014 for the Ready Reserve Corps.’’.

[ctdonath2]

So what does that have to do with the military?

[MWestMom]

Anyone know what the military, reserves, law enforcement officials, etc...think about this?

[DugwayDuke]

“Once that was done, it was “well since we pay for them, we can do what we want with them”.”

Essentially, that was the argument adopted by USSC. The feds establish the units, pay for the equipment and training, and pay the salaries. The feds bought them so they belong to the feds.

“Under the present setup, the next line of defense when the NG is Federalized are the State Police.”

Not always. Some states do have a state funded and operated “militia”. These militias are to step in if the state guard units are federalized.

[Oatka]

Not always. Some states do have a state funded and operated “militia”. These militias are to step in if the state guard units are federalized.

Yeah, I just found that out via post 89. Funny thing, in all these years, I had never heard of nor met a member of an organized militia as stated in the Wikipedia article.

[timestax]

bumpity uppity !!

[EdReform]

He may call, but will they answer? The local Oath Keepers group I belong to says no.