WHERE MY PIE AT, FOO'?
Posted on 04/07/2010 4:29:12 AM PDT by autumnraine
WASHINGTON — Two weeks after President Barack Obama signed the big health care overhaul into law, Americans are struggling to understand how — and when — the sweeping measure will affect them.
Questions reflecting confusion have flooded insurance companies, doctors' offices, human resources departments and business groups.
"They're saying, 'Where do we get the free Obama care, and how do I sign up for that?' " said Carrie McLean, a licensed agent for eHealthInsurance.com. The California-based company sells coverage from 185 health insurance carriers in 50 states.
McLean said the call center had been inundated by uninsured consumers who were hoping that the overhaul would translate into instant, affordable coverage. That widespread misconception may have originated in part from distorted rhetoric about the legislation bubbling up from the hyper-partisan debate about it in Washington and some media outlets, such as when opponents denounced it as socialism.
"We tell them it's not free, that there are going to be things in place that help people who are low-income, but that ultimately most of that is not going to be taking place until 2014," McLean said.
Adults with pre-existing conditions are frustrated to learn that insurers won't have to cover them until 2014 (though those under 18 will be protected in late September); then they become both hopeful and confused upon learning that a federal high-risk pool for them will be established in the next few months. "Health insurance is so confusing. You add this on top of it and it makes it even more confusing," McLean said.
(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...
A 30 year old man can get coverage for less than $60 a month.
That seems cheap enough to me.
Or just withdraw it from his account.
I can’t wait until the Dems decide that you have to purchase “carbon credits” to pay for the oxygen you breathe.
I’m sure there’s a bill drawn up, tucked away in a filing cabinet, awaiting to see the light of day...And I’m not being sarcastic.
Another way to look at it is, if SS and medicare is something we earned, then why is (nearly) everyone going to suggest that future cuts be means tested? On one hand we are owed it, on the other hand the cuts always have nothing to do with how much we were taxed(actually it’s the reverse, taxed more, cut more) . You see the scam?
S C A M
A little short of ten years; still a newby to some of the real veterans!
Unlike the Chi/mob in OUR WH and the turds in the Congress...... the USSC is bound by the law and our Constitution. I am sure the USSC has been researching the law ever since Ohaha came up with his cockamamie health plan.
I do think the court will have to revisit the commerce clause b/c of the power-grab by Ohaha, Reid and Pelosi. They have clearly over-reached their power and trampled on states rights......which are the soul of our republic.
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RECAP The Constitution is the limiting document upon the feds; the federal government cannot become greater than the granting power. That is, the federal servant cannot become greater than its master........the states.
......according to judicial analyst, and judge, Andrew P. Napolitano, healthcare reforms amount to "commandeering" (a legal term) the state legislatures for federal purposes, which the Supreme Court has forbidden as unconstitutional.
"The Constitution does not authorize the Congress to regulate state governments. Nevertheless, the Congress has told the state governments that they must modify their regulation of certain areas of healthcare, they must surrender their regulation of other areas of healthcare, and they must spend state taxpayer-generated dollars in a way that the Congress wants it done." (Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com............
No doubt most of the Death Care supporters thought the same thing. Wait until they get the bill!
I appreciate your point of view.
Entitlements are a political scam. On one hand we are told we earned them, on the other we are told to support new entitlements for others (cutting ours yet) because we demand the ones we were told we earned.
Practically they are redistribution and a ponzi scheme.
WHERE MY PIE AT, FOO'?
“The Constitution is the limiting document upon the feds; the federal government cannot become greater than the granting power. That is, the federal servant cannot become greater than its master........the states. “
B U M P
“...The Constitution is the limiting document upon the feds...”
Actually, it is and always has been just a piece of paper with some brilliant ideals written on it that depended entirely on all parties agreeing to be bound by it. It depended on all parties being Americans first, being honest/basically decent folk, and agreeing to be bound by it for the common cause of further the interests of America and her people.
In all reality, it’s a contract, nothing more. And when you have one political party basically subverting it to the will of international socialist masters, using every legalese and bullsh*t technicality to squash opposition to them, when you have US Congresscritters captured on film saying “I don’t care about the damn constitution!”, or saying “Dis lib’ral is for soshalizayshun of da Oil Comp’nees”...(actually, I’m surprised that idiot dingbat could even pronounce socialization) and that same political party cancels or abrogates their obligation to that contract, all bets are off.
That’s pretty much where we are now.
That is EXACTLY where we are now.
Yeah....but that's where "we, the people," come in.....and say "get outta here"....with our votes.
Hello...you ain’t seen nothing yet.
“...with our votes...”
That works right up until the cemetary voters show up at the polls and vote 2,3,4,5 times, and the GOP shows exactly Z-E-R-O testicular fortitude in pursuing and prosecuting election fraud.
...or right up to the point where 12-24 million illegal criminals who invaded the country suddenly become overnight citizens...
I fear we’re almost beyond the ballot box solution; November will tell. But for the record, I hope you are correct, Liz. I surely hope you are correct.
THE LOSING WHITE HOUSE ELECTION MODEL Now, if any state was ripe for illegals voter fraud, it was the recent NJ race for governeor. Ohaha's carefully laid plans----for installing a permanent Dem Majority of amnestied illegals----went haywire.
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OBAMA WAS DESPERATE FOR NJ's CORZINE TO WIN TO PROTECT THE WH AGENDA---OHAHA KEPT SAYING CORZINE WAS HIS "PARTNER" Ohaha was heavly invested in the NJ gubernatorial race---one of only two statewide 2009 races w/ VA. Ohaha campaigned in the state three times, Biden was there twice. Ohaha TV ads ran relentlessly in costly NY media markets.
Obama put the power of the WH machine behind Corzine. The NY Times reported:
(a) every TV ad Corzine put on the air was being screened by Obama's WH team.
(b) Corzine's aides gave the WH daily briefings.
(c) Obama’s pollsters took over for Corzine’s polling team, and,
(d) White House operatives were on the ground for internal strategy sessions,
(e) White House operatives were orchestrating obscure pep rallies with Latinos (kept secret from voters),
(f) Corzine had a "Peruvian Pac" endorsing him.
(h) Corzine promised to give illegals ‘driving credentials’ & in-state tuition.
(i) Corzine sucked up bigtime and REFUSED to enforce current immigration laws
(j)Corzine formed a Blue Ribbon committee of latinos and other hypenates who were using tax dollars to mine votes for Corzine.
(k) Also sucking up to illegals was Democrat US Sen Robert Menendez, a Spanish-speaking Corzine campaigner.
(l)Corzine appointed latinos to the Supreme Court and to other high profile state jobs.
(m) The crooked NJ Democrat Machine was also running at warp speed.
The New Jersey race was considered a "squeaker" that would go on till all hours. But two hours after the polls closed, the Repub was declared the winner with a comfortable 4-point margin.
The Republican Lieutenant Governor candidate (who won), was publicly lacerated by organized latino groups. A County Sheriff, she had applied for the federal 287(g) program, to question every inmate coming to the County jail about his/her immigration status, regardless of the offense for which they are incarcerated. The Sheriff had sought to ensure that "criminals" are not unduly released for fear of further harm to the community. The 287(g) program would provide the Sheriff with personnel and tools to punish individuals being held at the County jail (this was in contrast to the criteria set forth by candidate Corzine). illegals. Illegals lacerated the Sheriff for political pandering and for scouting incidents of indictable offenses such as driving under the influence by undocumented immigrants.
Other pertinent facts :
>> Incumbent Dem Jon Corzine (the wealthy loser) outspent the Repub winner about 4-1.
>> New Jersey has a huge Democratic registration.
>> Corzine bragged he had 20,000 paid union helpers on the ground election day to get out the vote.
>> There was a third party candidate siphoning off Republican votes.
>> Corzine had the power of incumbency.
>> Corzine had the power of a crooked Democrat Machine cooking the vote.
>> Ohaha hid $17.5 BILLION stimlulus in New Jersey.....for Corzine's reelection campaign.
And still Corzine lost.
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NEW JERSEY IS THE BASE FOR LATINO IDENTITY FRAUD
Two Texans busted in bogus ID operation in NJ
NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.
The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks.
The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.
Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.
All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.
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Pulling out all the stops for Corzine made Ohaha a VERY good target for those disgusted with Ohaha’s policies. Ohaha is smoking something illegal if he thinks Americans will become accustomed to Third World mob rule---just on his say-so.
“..or right up to the point where 12-24 million illegal criminals who invaded the country suddenly become overnight citizens...”
20-24 million illegals
It has been “12 million” for 10 years.
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