Posted on 04/05/2010 10:11:40 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
The top US naval officer has vowed to stop people lighting up in submarines, where the confined atmosphere has serious passive smoking implications, a report said Monday.
"We are going to stop smoking on submarines," Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Gary Roughead told a recent meeting of senior submariners, according to the Navy Times magazine.
Navy spokesman Lieutenant Commander Mark Jones confirmed a ban could be in the pipeline, telling AFP: "We are currently looking at changing the policy, but we have not changed the policy."
At present, smoking on US submarines is up to the commanding officer's discretion and there are designated areas on many vessels where the crew are allowed to smoke.
"That atmosphere moves around the submarine. You don't smell it but the damaging things from the smoke are still present," Roughead was quoted as saying by the Navy Times.
A Pentagon study last year carried out by the American Institute of Medicine revealed that soldiers smoke a lot more on average than civilians and that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had seen a spike in smoking.
The last official figures for the US military, in 2005, showed that almost one third of personnel in the armed forces, 32 percent, smoke as opposed to just one in five of the American population as a whole.
Jones said up to 40 percent of US submariners smoke, making it all the more important to look into a ban for the overall health of American sailors
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Um, no sir, I don’t, i just chuckle at it.
Heh... glad that you can get a laugh out of it. Unfortunately, to smokers it has been a nightmare, but what the hey, they are in the minority, so no harm, no foul...
“Tie ‘em to the carttail,”
Now WTF does that mean?
It’s what Protestant (Puritan, Huguenot, and the like) colonists did with morally loose and wandering Quaker women, when they got into trouble outside of their own communities. They tied them to the “carttail” (back of a wagon), whipped them, and sent them out of town. Those colonies were rather rough on crimes against families. For another example, they executed sodomites by hanging.
LOL That was exactly my first thought. All the old movies with the guys lighting up.And I always think when I see it that this was back when it wasnt evil to show smoking on screen.
Little history there, and I was half joking. There’s actually one contemporary Quaker sect that is more morally conservative than the original if not more so than many other American religious groups.
Oddly enough, many Americans confuse most Quakers (the libertine kind) for Amish or Mormon folks. [Must be the old fashioned hat on the oatmeal box.]
The clothes dryer is the greatest risk of fire on a submarine. Cigarettes are a good indicator that the oxygen level is OK.
They can go outside when they smoke, like everyone else.
In other news: Hussein bans submarines as unfair.
“Gays yes, smokes no?”
Gays yes, broads yes, afterglow smokes no.
They can go outside when they smoke, like everyone else
Open a hatch to let the smoke out or put in portholes. Smoke in the tube’s.
Just curious, does anyone know if some of the ladies in the Navy actually prostitute on board a ship? Seems like a lady could make some good extra money on a long deployment.
“Gays yes, smokes no?”
Looks like the Silent Service is going to be experiencing personnel deficits in the nearing future. Let’s see...Sub service personnel are made up from among the top 02% of the Navy’s intake, 40% of those do not make it through nuclear power school on academic grounds, then there is loss of numbers by attrition (anything that can go wrong, will). Now the Navy proposes to take one of the very few pleasures the “graduates” have during many long months of seclusion. That could be a huge deterrent in in recruiting the “cream of the crop”. The solution is to get rid of the nukes, resulting in the need of fewer subs and billet fillers. (Billet - just the military’s word for a deployment position...a job). But for the present, they Navy will just have to make do by giving the “squids” babes, Bennie Boys, extreme drama potential, and e-cigarettes to smoke after all the “ Mile Under Club” activities. As a former member of Sub Group 5, San Diego, I see the present trends throughout all military branches extremely disturbing, and I am well past being angry.
“They can go outside when they smoke, like everyone else.”
Over the 1 MC, “This is the Captain speaking, the smoking lamp is lit throughout the outside of das boot.”
I swear by ‘em.
I haven’t smoked an “analog” cigarette since last Dec. 9, and have no intention of ever smoking another.
Of course, everyone knows that fumes from amine, diesel fuel, lube oil, tourmaline grease, R12, R114 and body odor are actually good for you.
Did you know that the biggest risk of fire on a submarine is the clothes dryer? Maybe they ought to stop washing clothes.
It’s masked by the amine, diesel fuel and body odor smells. There’s a saying onboard a submarine: fresh air stinks.
Ban smoking and then put women on submarines..things could get pretty tense.
I used both when I was on a boat. Snuff/Chew didn’t compare to having a smoke before watch and the one after watch.
My usual load out for a 30 day cruise was 2 cartons and a roll of chew. 6 months 10 cartons 4 rolls. Mail packages filled the gap.
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