Thanks for the post.
You may find this interesting. My house received the long form, or community survey, which i decided not to answer because of the 16 pages of intrusive questions. Then followed post cards , then phone calls asking why we hadn’t returned it. Then another long form copy then 2 weeks of bombardment by phone- meaning 5-6 calls daily from different call centers around the US. Leaving messages etc. Finally we got a message that they were sending a rep by. When they came by for the 4th time I spoke to them on the phone and said that I would only answer the equivalent of the short, or enumerative survey. Thats ok, she said, you don’t have to answer anything you don’t feel comfortable with.
Thought we were done until this week when new survey people started coming around. They have been by 3 times arguing with my wife saying that the first survey wasn’t real,it was a scam, that they are the only one going on in my county, and that the county( Dukes, Ma.) has been specially chosen for only a face to face count.
When I called to try to straighten it out the supervisor repeated that they knew nothing about the other survey, that there was no such thing, and that it was a scam. When i directed her to the census’ own website she told me that she was not going to waste any more time talking to me but she was going to mark me down as a refusal, and then they would come over to my house “with a cop” and make me answer the questions.Is that what I wanted? I then asked what did she mean? How was that going to work? She reiterated her threat and I told them that if that was the case that I would be home at five. She did not appear, and when i called to find out why, she stated that she had turned it over to her superior, and that not to worry, but they would be coming over “with the cops” and that “ [I] will give them the answers”
So now what?
I looked at the form pretty close, and one thing I noticed was this:
It was about 20 or so questions, however many. They were enclosed in a kind of “blue box” compared to the white borders of the form.
Question 1 was basically how many people live here.
The odd thing was, question 1, AND QUESTION 1 ONLY was enclosed in a blue bow that was SLIGHTLY off color to all the rest of the questions in this other, much larger, blue box.
So it was almost like if you didn’t notice it, you would assume that all questions were required to be answered. But which ones actually were?
I filled in box 1 with 1, there is one inhabitant in my house.
If they knock on my door and ask my name I will probably ask them if I am under arrest, and if not, then they can pound salt.
BTTT. Thanks for posting!
If they dont send a form you dont have to fill it out right?
Ron Paul fights Census abuse (2010, U.S. Constitution, Federal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oggki-SZVvo
WOW. Incredible amount of legwork you’ve done to compile this — I commend you!
bookmark for later
A bump and thanks for posting.
BFLR
Won’t answer it until they put a gun to my head.
I’m done with it all until the communists are ousted.
They’ll get exactly zero cooperation from me in all matters up to, and until they show intent to take my life, or take me from my family.
Not interested in making the destruction of my country easy for them.
F’em, and their corrupt census!
I hate to say this to a fellow freeper, but your analysis is laughable. You really have no clue as to what you’re talking about.
The short answer would be anything which violates the 4th or 5th amendments does not need to be answered.
See I am not a lawyer and I solved the question in one sentence.
Lawyers today could not make a pimple on the a$$ of the founders.
The founders created a new type of foundation for a vastly superior government in about 18 pages whereas today's lawyers needed 2900 pages to just socialize 1/6th of the economy.
Because the USA was so successful, and some part of human nature seems to abhor success, the socialists/communists/Marxists/progressives HAVE to crush us and get us to fall in line with their failed system of government. We were, and I stress WERE, way too successful and we were showing up the statists for the failures that they have always been. This can not be allowed to stand in their minds.
We need a revolution to get back to the Constitution and not to have to be a lawyer to figure out if we need to answer a question on a census form.
If a census form is this complex in the legal world how the hell do we get out of bed in the morning without violating some federal or state law?
Today "IGNORANCE OF THE LAW" should be a perfectly valid excuse. Seems to work for scum like Rangle and Geithner.
Now, what have the Almighty Courts done with this.
If they start trying people for refusing to answer all the questions, hang the jury. Jurors have the right and the duty to refuse to convict people for refusing to comply with an illegal or unjust law.
Know your rights as a juror. http://fija.org/
Under this regime jury nullification may well be the most important weapon we have against tyranny.
Bump for later reference.